Russian invasion of Ukraine

Why were there no sanctions when Russia enter Crimea?

There were, actually.

On 19 December 2014, US President Obama imposed sanctions on
Russian-occupied Crimea by executive order prohibiting exports of US
goods and services to the region. On 16 February 2015, the EU
increased its sanction list to cover 151 individuals and 37 entities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#:~:text=On%2019%20December%202014%2C%20US,151%20individuals%20and%2037%20entities.

For the fashionistas among us...

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497479675463049221?s=21

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Reports of heavy bombing and paratroopers dropped in Kyiv… :(

@dau Shows how much I know. Or should that be how much I believed.

It's part of what lets him spin his revisionist history that the West is out to cripple their economy and why the UK gets criticism from the US and EU for still letting Russians hide their money here

Feels like we are blind to propaganda. Examples of Italian Press and Berlusconi and news international.

Think am starting to believe the propaganda of little or punitive measures to Russia while the truth is different. The if it is said enough times it becomes the truth. Didn't even know about the collapse of the ruble was link to sanctions rather that global economic issues.

EDIT: To you and @dau Genuine thank you for showing me why I am wrong, with proof.

This was on my facebook feed, from the poke. Quoting twitter so no idea how true it is.

But I really want to believe (is this an example of cognitive dissidence or Dunning-Kruger effect)

EDIT if utter rubbish just say.

Feels like we are blind to propaganda

There are levels to this game. Movies like "Rambo" for example can also considered US propaganda but in places like Belarus or Russia it's so severe they distort reality.

It's not that hard to believe. Trump literally sat by being a distraction for all while people like Putin quietly went about his business doing as he pleased

I'd say it's a mix of facts and assumptions / personal opinions. Which is the worst kind of fake news.

here is a live stream with views from a few traffic cameras from Kyiv.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TGonEOXdU

Looks like the efforts to kick Russia out of the SWIFT network are starting to work.

I think I read that the Ukraine govt is making arrangements for foreigners to volunteer to fight. I wonder who'll go? If I wasn't so old and had a cat and no experience of fighting I'd probably be thinking about it. I've been upset about Ukraine and Putin since Euromaidan, when Putin shot people for wanting to join the EU. Then the UK voted to leave it. So Ukraine appeals to me as a more homely place than here.

We will welcome you with open arms....to pick our crops...urgh

find it utterly bizarre that if TOS-1 is such a powerful weapon that it is so un-protected and its location public via social media

in-fact the whole conflict being on social media is dystopian

You think any people close to Putin trusts each other enough?

Here's a petition which lots of Russians have signed. We can sign it too http://www.change.org/NetVoyne

vladimir putin mcpoyle

Get that man some milk.

in-fact the whole conflict being on social media is dystopian

Feels like part of the battle is being fought on social media with the distortion of reality.

Looks like they are now going after the central banks foreign reserves which is far worse than getting kicked out of Swift or the other sanctions announced, massive economic escalation

https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1497705581817253889

I was wondering about that. Given that they're all fiat currencies, why can't the foreign national banks just say 'Your money is no longer valid' to Russia? Goodbye foreign reserves.

Might be a run on Russian banks when the market opens on Monday.

Sets a really shitty precedent and potentially leads to countries withdrawing their money for fear it is no longer safe in Central Banks. The US have basically done it recently with the Taliban, The Government of Afghanistan had 6bn in the Federal Reserve and when the Taliban took over, the US said they are keeping it, some of it is apparenty going to be used to as payments for families of 9/11 victims apparently and their is a famine in Afghanistan