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Long headtubes on drop bar bikes that already have long a2c forks are so annoying

I didn't realise you worked for Surly

No, I just can be

These kind of bikes have small head tubes (low stacks, really) because of their level top tube, which increases standover if you don't decrease the head tube. It makes the frames look very badly proportioned in my opinion.

But to me that looks proper.

Looks like a negative top tube, same as the brother I commented on.

For a frame that's meant to be very bike packing / touring friendly the geo just baffles me

I stand with @Hulsroy when it comes to headtubes

Bikes should fit their owners... Whatever that means and people should stop bike shaming. I am tired of that shit.
A good looking bike is fit for purpose

Big headtubes are ugly and are only acceptable on frames for big people where all the other tubes are big.

By big I mean long and by only acceptable I mean I don't really care.

How long is long though?

Too long.

Ah cool, I'm ok with that, cheers for the clarification.

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I know it gets mentioned a lot, maybe I missed it; but WTF is the point of putting cable disc brakes on a posh bike?
Is it like expensive watches that don’t keep accurate time?

Is there an FAQ?

I'm afraid that question cannot be asked again on here until at least 2025

Because a lot of posh bikes are form over function and all hydro drop levers are ugly?

This! Do not understand it in the slightest. Is it just to shun "modern" tech?

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Oh ffs

OK can you put that on the 2025 calendar after Red Tyres Cool or Fool?

If this thread is still going in 2025, I'm going to do unspeakably awful things to Amey

It’s gonna be the Aggro-Gravel Crit thread

Ok

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I said all hydro levers are ugly not all cable levers are beautiful

Just figured out that image is the Singular from up-thread - I didn’t think @Alf0nse was asking in response to that bike