Cargo Bikes

anti >>>>>

Also makes you feel a bit like a HGV.

I'm into this. Will order

Bit of an "off piste" question, any recommendations for a waterproof saddle cover that is actually waterproof?

This looks awesome, getting put through its paces already!

pretty niche cargo option but the Omnium eMini and eMini Variant is down to £3165 from £3950 if anyone is looking for something compact and electric

I'm looking at the urban Arrow Family as a good replacement for car journeys in and around London. Would the front basket/bench be comfortable for an average size adult and toddler for more than say 10 minutes? Anyone have any experience?

No personal experience, but I think I saw a post on the UA Owners FB group where a guy took his wife and daughter around town to see the christmas lights. All looked chipper.

Look on fourstarfamilycycling Instagram, there’s a video with an adult sitting in one and she looks like she’s got loads of room for a toddler too

Yeah they will do that. Wouldn't want to be in it for hours, but its sizable enough.
Get one with regular gears if you can, also note the recent price rises.

Suggest going to your local cargo shop and trying out all the different bikes, photos on a marketing page aren't as good as sitting on it/in it, trying it out. Folk either love or hate the sloped back UA/dutch riding position

cargoebikehouseboat something

Woah, even an inflatable banana to protect the wheel bearings!? This gets my seal of approval.

I stuck mine on the ball joint of the steering linkage. Thought it might not be all that visible to driver's as it's a bit tucked under the rack, but hasn't caused any issues thus far.

Thanks Jon and cake for the suggestions. I’m gunna go for mounting it underneath the ball joint

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New tern gsd mk2.
Its somehow worse than mk1 to work on.

In order to remove rear wheel, for you know, a puncture.
Have to take off the kid tent, the brackets, then the axle still won't come out so need to remove the big black metal step that goes over the frames permanent step (why is there two?), but to take that off, there is a 13mm nut trapped behind one of the mounts for the kickstand, so have to loosen kickstand and allow bike to wobble around on some pieces of wood? Or you need a hoist.
This isn't for real?
Imagine some poor fam out in the wild trying to do this with kids. Almost no cargo is easy to change a tyre on, but this new mk2 gsd takes the cake!

Thought maybe you can do this whilst it's sat on its arse, as per marketing. Can't get to bolts in this position.

Also bike is 3 weeks old, 150 miles on it. "new" kickstand already has play and sticks in a halfway position?

On positive news, saw a "triobike" yesterday, close copy of a bullitt with a brose motor. Rides solid, super close in feel to a Douse. Build quality seemed ok, time will tell if they know how to make a frame, but overall was impressed, price also good.

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Linear inner tubes might be worth looking into?

I just make it vertical, disconnect Rohloff, have a long 5mm Allen, loosen the pulley, remove bolts from hub, out it pops

this is with a full stormbox/shield setup too

wayyyyyyyyy easier than bullitt with Alfine I had

Also bike is 3 weeks old, 150 miles on it. "new" kickstand already has play and sticks in a halfway position?

This is an issue, a minor one though, I just undid the bolts that locks the stand in place, aligned and redid them and played with cable tension of the lever, flawless since

Basically the conclusion I arrived at is that the Tern is a nightmare for a bike shop employee but a joy as a product and why we see more people angry with it 'on here'

It is SUCH a well thought out kid carrier that is also a semi-decent cargo bike, no other I have seen or ridden matches, still a low benchmark but still good.

Service advice please! I have a gen 1 Tern GSD about 18 months old now, I guess someone should be giving the motor some attention by now and the rear brake needs a bleed as a bare minimum?? I'm fine with most bike maintenance but not touched e motors before so probably best to let someone who knows what to do with it get there hands on it and give it a full service!

Bike was bought online so Fully Charged is not an option, anyone got any good experiences where else is there to service Ebikes - ideally in SW London!

Thanks!

Sort of glad that I won't have to service or work on another GSD after work is finished this month tbh
Annoying little things

I've seen and worked on just about every cargo. GSD ride well and do what they are mean't to well, can't deny that. The mk2 suspension fork is kinda daft IMO, suspension seatpost yes though. Lights with high beam and brake function linked to the levers, brilliant (though this isn't Tern's system, just 1st bike I've seen it done well on).

What I find absolutely fucking mental. Is the Mk1 you could remove a Rohloff or any other IGH or regular derailleur system rear wheel, without having to remove a whole bunch of accessories. The Mk2 is a massive backwards step in this regard that honestly defies belief. I think only with Rohloff on mk2 can you get rear wheel off in the normal way (tilt on its back like the mk1). Anyone got an account with Tern, any info as to why they have done this? Seems either an act of insanity, or a genuine oversight (but then they blasted on and made tens of thousands of them anyways?).

Also access to WONKY rear brake caliper (mount needed to face a bit off it, except face tool (Park and VAR) do not fit on the rear post due to frame, so had to hand file it is limited. Obviously not something you have to do very often, but even on UA (my other fav bikes, which have honestly increased their overall quality and ability to be worked on massively in the last few years, so props to them), adjusting the rear disc caliper position is easier.

Bullitt with IGH are easy enough (and same for Omnium, Douze, R+M bikes), pop something in to remove the cable. Undo 2 bolts, loosen adjusters with fingers (no tools required) lift bike up or tip on its side, bob, is, your, uncle. On some of them depending on tyre choice you have to remove 2x 4mm allen bolts to loosen the mudguard.

This IS a rant. As a retailer and a tech, and having been a product engineer and manager for near 10 years, it makes US, the people you can actually get to and vent at, look bad. When its not us that are pushing companies to make these daft decisions.

fully empathise with this

Mk2 is the ugliest POS ever. Sus fork as you say is a joke.

Glad we went with Benno in the end, had nothing but smiles with it.

As a user:
I want my eggs to no break when stored in front rack
I want a tyre/inner tube size that is widely available

Dependancies:
Angry mechanics :P

Basically Tern has next to zero user issues, they are all the issues bike shop can solve albeit not happily.

They are selling like hot cakes.

The ford fiesta of cargo bikes.