Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

"Vaccinated people have the same rate of a side effect as people who have never had the disease" is just awkward. I mean, that seems like that is obvious.

Yeah the original is hard work.
The retweet is much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-2uxvpo5M

Colleague keeps getting a mix of positive and negative lateral flows, but has had two negative PCRs in the same period. What's the explanation there?

Contamination from something they eat or drink. Orange juice or Diet Coke?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210705-how-children-are-spoofing-covid-19-tests-with-soft-drinks

Contamination?

Fully vaccinated people who get infected with COVID-19 report
#longcovid symptoms at the same levels as uninfected.

Vaccines protect against severe illness AND long COVID.

What's difficult to understand here?

Well ones definition of anti-vaxxers are gonna differ ofc.

Its however not a very productive way forward imo to lump People together. Especially not if you want to understand the reasoning behind their actions, or inaction in this case, which would make it easier to find a way to bring them around.

As for your friends who claim to have had it, sounds like you think they are lying. Thats ofc a totally different group of people then the ones i Thought could perhaps be persuaded with facts and information.

Fully vaccinated people who get infected with COVID-19 report #longcovid symptoms at the same levels as uninfected.

People who have never had COVID shouldn't get Long-COVID. It is a weird comparison to make. It makes the point logically jarring, not revelatory.

"Thirsty people who drink water are just as hydrated as the unthirsty"

Just weird.

You are making hard work of this...

Trying to put my finger on it but it smacks as some sort of double negative to the lay person (me). If you are saying that there is a lack of something, I think it's odd to say there is just as much of that thing rather than just as little of that thing.

I know, "at the same levels" doesn't itself state a higher or lower instance, but like I said for someone not used to reading this kind of conclusion, it jarred.

People who don't have long COVID can have long COVID symptoms though, as they're fairly common in general.

It may not be immediately obvious what it means but it is quite a specific claim

If you are fully vaccinated, catching COVID does not increase your chances of any getting any long COVID symptoms (above baseline), or something.

Fully vaccinated people who get infected with COVID-19 report #longcovid symptoms at the same levels as uninfected.

Again, why even make this statement this way. I know it's explained on the next line, but this already stops me in my tracks and makes me think "is that a high level? a low level?".

And if two, fairly intelligent people (ok, one and an Irishman) are seeing this, then others will too.

People who don't have long COVID can have long COVID symptoms though, as they're fairly common in general.

However the statement is about the "uninfected" - uninfected by COVID is my assumption.

Either way. A point about the benefits of vaccination that could be better communicated. The sheer number of interpretations here seem to make my point about the poor communication. (and, yes I do understand the underpinning study, thanks).

However the statement is about the "uninfected" - uninfected by COVID is my assumption.

Yes, you can be uninfected by COVID but still suffer from fatigue, headache, weakness of limbs, muscle pain, loss of concentration, etc. You don't have to have long COVID to get a headache

So?

Fully vaccinated people who get infected with COVID-19 and report #longcovid symptoms just have a dose of man-flu

Mate of mine got COVID (no booster) luckily not bad one day if awful now fine, from a friend of his.

Who had visited his dad with COVID
...then went to see my mate and passed it on.

Sometimes I wonder if people don't know by now or don't care then turning into a tag team for team COVID.

Kill all hamsters to prevent covid.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1629411-20220118.htm

Anyone who bought a hamster anywhere in Hong Kong since December 22 last year is now being "strongly advised" to hand it over so it can be tested for Covid.
Regardless of the test result, the hamster will be killed.

EDIT: a slightly better written article. https://app.hongkongfp.com/2022/01/18/covid-19-hong-kong-to-kill-2000-hamsters-other-small-animals-over-untraceable-delta-outbreak-at-pet-shop/

Why not all animals while we are at it.

We’re starting small

Also the problem hamsters are Dutch so we’ll boil them up with some sugar.

To grow tulips from hamster jam.

"Sometimes I wonder if people don't know by now or don't care then turning into a tag team for team COVID.”

My partner goes to tango festivals and has been travelling to organised ones in Europe, they were quite tightly regulated with vaccination mandatory/on site testing etc.
most recent one and there was an omicron outbreak later into the festival (in a hotel where most participants were staying) didn’t go to the last evenings dance and was fine to travel and fine on her return.
Some idiot posted pics of himself on facebook out in a restaurant even though he was positive and supposed to be in his hotel room, he then bribed a nurse at the airport for a negative result to return to the U.K.
Needless to say there was a fully justified pile-on on facebook and then the idiot turned up at an event in London and was told politely to jog-on.

what is up with some people?

One of my wife’s colleagues was feeling dodgy yesterday after a weekend of drinking, but still went into work. Got a test at lunch time. He went into work today, got the PCR positive today.
Got sent home immediately, other people sent home and asked to do tests, cleaning team in full PPE called in to clean the office, toilets, cafeteria.

Much disruption.

Would these people not be better off protesting protecting the freedom to protest.

Any theories on why case numbers in Denmark continue to rise? Possibly the Omicron sub-variant that has become dominant there?