How do I bathroom / kitchen / extension? etc.

Unfortunately not, sorry. They can't remember.

@dbr - just remembered we used some of the samples to make a table and bench for our dolls house and found the samples.

Sorry for the weird photo. The QR code is playing havoc with trying to take a photo.

https://hardwoodfloors.uk.com/wood-mosaic/oak-nature-mosaics-single

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Brilliant, thanks for that.

Hi all - been quoted £8000 for the following work and we're struggling to get any other builders to even quote to provide us some context for the price. Any idea whether it seems reasonable?

• Supply and install skylight (pitched roof) and reconfigure internal ceiling to match
  
• Supply and install bigger white uPVC window (back wall)
  
• Re-lay sub-base and top felt covering on the flat roof, supply and install new gutters, fascia and soffit boards
  
• Supply and install 10 LED spotlights
  
• Make outside walls around pipework water tidy and fix outside pipework
  
• Strip out old box around pipework and make it good (make a new one as tight as possible)
  
• Hack off wet (water damaged) plaster and make it good after
  
• Repair the ceiling, prepare it for decoration and decoration works (white color paints included)
  
• Make good around the garden double door
  
• Relevant rubbish removal
  

Depending on the size of stuff, that sounds alright to me. Inc or ex VAT and materials?

Got loft conversion quote from Creative Spaces. Am kinda staggered by £87k.

I get that they (hopefully) offer a more bespoke service than the likes of Dan James, but almost 50% more expensive seems a bit nuts. Brief look at what is/isn't included appears very similar.

Yeah mine wasn't much below that once you factor everything in. I think their work will be top notch, but then it should be for that price.
The Architects I used for my downstairs said they'd be about 90K for a loft, prob near 100 now, but then their build team are amazing.

Is that inc. VAT?

Yeah and plenty of time to save up for when they have a slot in 2025

Thankfully yes.

But not party wall/surveyor costs, bathroom sanitary ware, tiling, decorating, door handles, floor covering.

So way beyond 100k after all that. Could proably fund it if necessary but not sure I see the value in spending almost 30 grand more than what Dan James are asking. Their work certainly has a decent enough reputation anyway.

Tough one (and food for thought as we’ve considered a loft conversion too!)

Does the extra include e.g. nicer cladding on the exterior or would it still be that awful looking roof tiled box on a dormer?

Mine was bog standard cladding, no way am I having that.

Unpopular opinion, but dormer/loft extensions are so shit in general. Always compromised spaces, and more times than not super low head height resulting in sub-standard space and not to mention the overheating. I think I am yet to see one that is not a blight on the surrounding areas, or offers nice internal space.

Clearly get it if you are running out of space and cannot afford to move, but would never choose to do one for a master bedroom suite.

would it still be that awful looking roof tiled box

Hey

But...yeah

Always compromised spaces, and more times than not super low head height resulting in sub-standard space and not to mention the overheating. I think I am yet to see one that is not a blight on the surrounding areas, or offers nice internal space.

Hey

But...yeah

Thought this one was done well but its controversial locally...maybe for looking slightly less shit than all the others.

Yeah would disagree.

Example: https://dedraft.co.uk/projects/ar-residence/

So depressing. Lets just build over all gardens with metal boxes, add plenty of concrete and leave nothing for nature and biodiversity. Just so we can have a bland and soulless 60k kitchen.

ooooh it's pretty.

(annoying website though)

this low fence giving me anxiety

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The only thing I liked in those photos was the spectacles. Aggressively sterile.

not convinced

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Yeah of course, if it's easy to use it accessible, this isn't meant to be accessible.
Thats actually a thing.

Cladding wise, the dormer looks nicer than the adjoining two but we will need to agree to disagree on the wider points Chris.

This is the Planning Application for that project. The proposed section shows a floor-ceiling height of 2m in the loft space, that is a sub-standard space however you decide to roll it in glitter.

This is a good architectural project resource website that handily has that project for free-to-view. If you compare the proposed sections from each of the above, you will see that they lowered the existing 1st floor ceiling to achieve the loft extension probably increasing the floor-to-ceiling by 100-200mm to realise the loft extension (still below an acceptable head height) but in turn removing any original features and charm of the 1st floor. You'll see they also paid £210k for the above (unsure if that includes VAT, it won't include fees) and at the end of the day you are still next to those adjoining dormers.

I dunno, I know I am being negative and that loft extensions typically serve a real purpose for those who build them resulting from the wider broken market (property values, inability to move up the 'ladder'), but they are straight-up ugly and rarely function as habitable spaces. I don't think I could relax in the above project's garden and look back at that house.

I have a bunch of shit loft conversions overlooking my house, don't care at all.
They paid around 250 all in I think, but that's for the whole project.
I like them and look forward to having one, been in my neighbours (which are basic) and they feel like great spaces.
Horses for courses.

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