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The spark
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0012fwc
Also this one in particular goes some way to explaining the dude energy.
No longer on, so some of it may be dated, but late night women's hour was good.
https://open.spotify.com/show/2mD6KB1rHEj38s3gG2hQii?si=NGtKXywkRfiRdF3o0tAKyA&utm_source=copy-link
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Would like some suggestions for UK based podcasts, preferably not one hosted by men. Too much American dude energy in my library at the moment.