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gillies in reply to @EB

Did you know one of the guys he shot was armed with a hand gun and was chasing him? Does that matter to you or not?

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EB in reply to @gillies

He PUT himself onto the streets in a different town uninvited, and armed with an AR-15.

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gillies in reply to @EB

i'm not seeing anything here that invalidates the argument for self defence though

i think it might be worth, generally, for people to indicate whether their opinion relates to the moral case or the legal case here because those are two very different conversations

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