@farewell in addition, can't promise, but I'll also ask about industry, not just LFGSS.
@Big_Ted not at all, a discussion as old as time.
I get the technical problems of two-way zippers, but wonder if some of this is caused by the type of puller specced; the lockdown or semi-automatic lock rely on the puller tab being 'down' to lock the slider. On the bottom of a jacket in a riding position, it can flip 'up' and the slider works loose and up the jacket. Albion uses a different, free-hanging tab, which can also be snipped out and replaced with a cord tab if you want it even smaller. It's also rounded, to stop snagging/burring on bibs/tights.
....however, there's another faff with two-way zips, which is ease of use and getting the pin through two sliders into the box. This, and every year seeing professional riders struggling with a regular, single slider rain jackets (wrote a bit more on this in the Burner thread), is a rich source of inspiration and a real need. We're working on this, v positive results so far.
@amey You're a lot more grown up than me - I only have Cargo bike aspirations, you're living it outloud!
@pacef8 ...not seen that PedalEd product, looks great. And yeah, if you could take all the best bits of everything and mix up - not sure how the Rapha Alpha/hooded one was received, looked suited very cold conditions, but then I never rode it. Not sure how close they are to coloured Shakedry (as opposed to tinted/printed), but will be interesting once the dark drab/olive identity is diluted.
@GoatandTricycle yes, this is definitely of interest, and again, another perfect use-case challenge for a dedicated product, or a family of products. As you highlight, there's variety of quality and some grey areas, with some events/riding in France/insurance requiring EN certified products, we want to get it right; the testing/certification isn't cheap to enter into!
If you want to upgrade existing kit, hopefully we can do it at an event soon, we're in your neighbourhood now.
@youramericanlover curious, I looked into how big this cancelling job will be; in 2014, YKK turnover was $6billion = 25% of Nike's 2014 turnover. Brain bending stuff.
@hoops thats v kind of you to say, now blushing. Cargos are signed off and ready to go ....Got some nice Deep Winter Tights imminent with a neat pocket detail. Good for riding, but also that general winter faff where you're leaving/stopping/getting home.
@Squaredisk I've considered for a long time doing more insight, sharing knowledge, maybe here or on IG. I have zero interest in the currency of exposure or influence, so struggle a little at times knowing the line with putting stuff out there, and it might be a dedicated thread if the time is right. Meanwhile, I just want well-made stuff that looks good, and happy to share my experience here and in the Sewing thread
@%~} I saw some shots of the crew last week; can confirm yes, it was cold ...new adverse conditions jackets coming this week. Whats your avatar? Driving me nuts - feels a bit X-files-ey? or maybe thats the halloween playlist earworm.
@cozey only time I've ever seen someone sweating blood is when their body fat was down here. Enjoy life, don't sweat blood!
Thanks for the reply. Always prefer to buy from the smaller cycling businesses if I can afford it. I only discovered Albion recently through your posts on here.
Out of interest do Albion do repairs in-house or are they done at Lancashire sport repairs?
@farewell in addition, can't promise, but I'll also ask about industry, not just LFGSS.
@Big_Ted not at all, a discussion as old as time.
I get the technical problems of two-way zippers, but wonder if some of this is caused by the type of puller specced; the lockdown or semi-automatic lock rely on the puller tab being 'down' to lock the slider. On the bottom of a jacket in a riding position, it can flip 'up' and the slider works loose and up the jacket. Albion uses a different, free-hanging tab, which can also be snipped out and replaced with a cord tab if you want it even smaller. It's also rounded, to stop snagging/burring on bibs/tights.
....however, there's another faff with two-way zips, which is ease of use and getting the pin through two sliders into the box. This, and every year seeing professional riders struggling with a regular, single slider rain jackets (wrote a bit more on this in the Burner thread), is a rich source of inspiration and a real need. We're working on this, v positive results so far.
@amey You're a lot more grown up than me - I only have Cargo bike aspirations, you're living it outloud!
@pacef8 ...not seen that PedalEd product, looks great. And yeah, if you could take all the best bits of everything and mix up - not sure how the Rapha Alpha/hooded one was received, looked suited very cold conditions, but then I never rode it. Not sure how close they are to coloured Shakedry (as opposed to tinted/printed), but will be interesting once the dark drab/olive identity is diluted.
@GoatandTricycle yes, this is definitely of interest, and again, another perfect use-case challenge for a dedicated product, or a family of products. As you highlight, there's variety of quality and some grey areas, with some events/riding in France/insurance requiring EN certified products, we want to get it right; the testing/certification isn't cheap to enter into!
If you want to upgrade existing kit, hopefully we can do it at an event soon, we're in your neighbourhood now.
@youramericanlover curious, I looked into how big this cancelling job will be; in 2014, YKK turnover was $6billion = 25% of Nike's 2014 turnover. Brain bending stuff.
@hoops thats v kind of you to say, now blushing. Cargos are signed off and ready to go ....Got some nice Deep Winter Tights imminent with a neat pocket detail. Good for riding, but also that general winter faff where you're leaving/stopping/getting home.
@Squaredisk I've considered for a long time doing more insight, sharing knowledge, maybe here or on IG. I have zero interest in the currency of exposure or influence, so struggle a little at times knowing the line with putting stuff out there, and it might be a dedicated thread if the time is right. Meanwhile, I just want well-made stuff that looks good, and happy to share my experience here and in the Sewing thread
@%~} I saw some shots of the crew last week; can confirm yes, it was cold ...new adverse conditions jackets coming this week. Whats your avatar? Driving me nuts - feels a bit X-files-ey? or maybe thats the halloween playlist earworm.
@cozey only time I've ever seen someone sweating blood is when their body fat was down here. Enjoy life, don't sweat blood!