Cargo Bikes

Parking these guys while you go and do the big shop. How? Where?

In the motorcycle bay in the car park is where I often leave mine. Or just anywhere out the way. Usually don’t lock it to anything, just rear wheel lock, and remove battery and head unit.

and laka

yeah, pretty much this. My battery is locked inside the cargo section anyway and is pretty difficult to even spot, nevermind remove without a key.

If I'm going to be away for a bit longer or I feel the area isn't so great or something I take my chain from home (which is close to 2m long) and the lock that comes with it. It must weight about 10kg at least but it doesn't really make a difference given the electric motor

I normally D lock the front of the frame to something unless I’m literally nipping in and out of somewhere. There are too many vans at the supermarket for me to risk it. I know the bike is 40kg with the box on, but it would take me seconds to throw it into the back of a van all by myself and I’m no Geoff Capes.

anyone need a gnarly kickstand?

https://www.bennobikes.com/products/dual-kickstand/

£120 rrp, will let it go for about £75? hardly used

£120 rrp

wow, is it made of titanium and assembled by islandic elves or something?

ha! got to tighten it to 80Nm too?!

Got reversed into by a driver tonight because he overshot a zebra crossing and tried to back up. Clearly didn't see the front of my omniun. Bell end.

I of course reacted with grace and serenity... by calling him a stupid cunt and ramming the front of the cargo rack into his bumper. He did say sorry at least

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orginal-Bullitt-Cargo-Bike-with-child-seat-side-panels-and-variable-gear-/154590219661?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

It cost Benno over $10,000 to have the tooling made for that stand we were told. It's a great stand, but yeah, the high price isn't unusual for Benno accessories - the basket on my eJoy was $220 retail (but it has a capacity of 16kg)

I work in tooling engineering for a non-disclosed swedish automotive company. If Benno actually paid over $10k for tooling on just a kickstand that sells for only £120 . They need to re-evaluate their bussiness model.

More likeley they just load an other program into their welding bot, make some adjustments on the jig and crap out kickstands that day.

Or they bought a fancy welding cobot on the kickstand project budget.

It’s a pretty good point. I don’t think I dispute a $10k figure for tooling and jigs (because those sorts of costs mount up pretty quickly) but you do have to question how many of these they’ll ever sell. It’s a pretty limited market.

Now that I think about it and had a couple more coffees. They probably produce all their stuff in the east so production cost is actualy just time slots in some welding and finishing factory that runs 24/7.

The R&D that goes into a kickstand should be just a CAD model with stress analasys.

So either their prodcution facility is invoicing them too much or Benno is paying himself genourisly.

Also, I suspect the kickstand is mounted on their bikes too, so a premium with a better margin for products sold seperatly is not bad startegy at all. As volume orders would generaly equal to a lower cost per unit.

Bike industry is small fry compared to many others that you would think about comparing (automotive/aerospace/tech, where they are similarities in the bringing together of parts and assemblies from dozens of different mftr in different parts of the world, fine when you are in the 100k+ units per annum, but most bike companies don't make that many of any SKU, they might make 100k+ per annum of all bikes, but likely only 4k medium in blue, 4k medium in black, 3k large in blue etc), then cargo bikes are a niche of that. SO any additional tooling/mad add ons required to make their existing machinary make your item that the mftr has, is chargeable (much like if you add any optional extra's onto a PCP/lease car, you pay for it upfront).

Thankfully most cargo companies don't change for a few years at a time, so their parts are forwards and backwards compatible for 10+ model years of bike.

Bullitt + Benno both have boss level double stands (shame the larger benno boost doesn't come with the double as standard though), Urban Arrow's stand is also pretty damn solid not heard many complaints on those either, compared to Tern (I like their bikes but their stands are utter garbage) who send out GSD with a side stand that you would commonly see on a £5-600 ridgeback hybrid, then suggest the double which is approx £100 RRP and WILL seize up within 1 month of winter use unless you regularly grease it, and the feet will fall off another month later and not sure they are available as a separate part.

Long story short, £125 rrp for the Benno stand is fair. Loving the Remi Demi BTW, anyone who hasn't seen one, suggest going and trying one, everyone here thats tried one has put down a deposit

Remi Demi is such a sick bike.

Still trying to convince my dad he needs one :)

I mean look at that rack

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Remi Demi

Shit fat, folding ebike you see deliveroos on

Maiden voyage to pick up Chinese. Posted for sale locally for a price I couldn’t pass up, and now it lives at our house.

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Sweet ass ride right there

Thanks. I’m completely excited about it. I made do with an Xtracycle attachment on a number of frames since 2008ish, and this came available for so cheap, in my neighborhood. Just in time, too. We have two little boys and a third on the way. Dadbiking is about to get a lot more cargo-y.

Dad biking is pretty awesome to be fair. Family picnic on bikes yesterday and weekly shop on the bike with the little one today. Everyone loving it.

Dad biking on the Bullitt is the only biking I really enjoy lately. Took the girls out for a "tour de playground" last sunday, picnick in the woods and an ice cream at the ens. Epic day.

Voile straps also a good investment to strap a push bike to the side of the canopy.

I haven't had good experience with Voile straps, they seem to deteriorate and fall apart after a year