Should Scotland be an independent country?

Anyway, I think this plan is far more exciting than the one to move to East Sussex...

Why is it shite? I love it here 🤔

I was joking, but I would move to Glasgow before Edinburgh. Partially for the reasons you gave. The city feels more like a living city (in a way I like, I suppose). Plus there's easy access to the Trossachs and beyond; it's cheaper (probably a big reason the city feels more dynamic); and there are fewer tourists.

I do love both Edinburgh and Glasgow though.

Lived in Stirling for a few years, all perfectly nice except a very small town with a lot of the attitudes that go with that. Big fan of both Glas/Ed as cities, but could never understand half of what the average weegie said - and I’m from Belfast. Also, Old Firm.

Dundee seems to be the place with boing atmo

Yeah but Dundonians. Oof. Rough as.

Glasgow for a night out, but always glad to come back to Edinburgh. Glasgow is absolutely filthy

Edinburgh is generally a poor night out.. Rugby shirts or carnivale de rockport. Take your pick.

Dundee on the other hand..

Dunfermline is where its at ya absolute Philistines.

I raise you Port Glasgow

In more important news, we now have a sort of SNP/Green alliance.
Harvey looked like he'd had his teeth done specially on C4 news.

If I were Scots Gov I'd be working out how I could attract people from England to come and live in Scotland who are in the upper brackets.

I guess there's a couple of problems with that. Firstly the majority of high earners seem to be happy to vote conservative, they're not the ones who are suffering under the conservatives.

Secondly, attracting them is probably going to require some quid pro quo which gives the risk of turning into conservative light, prioritising the wealthy.

That depends on how you define high- IIRC it’s 43k, which I suspect includes a majority of the forum.

Therefore, Aerospokes are clearly part of the initiative.

scotland is a genuinely great place to live. if you do decide to move, I'm sure you'll love it here.

(spanish official position on scottish independence - last time I checked - is that they do not have an issue with it, provided that is done in accordance with UK constitutional probity. this is on the basis that it cannot provide succour to seccessionist movements inside their borders as the spanish constitution does not allow for its dissolution.)

I agree.. I was thinking about this on the way home from post work MTB. A few years ago I spent two weeks in Tuscany and another ten days or so in southern Italy visiting family in the height of summer. I remember vividly enjoying a damp cycle over Fenwick moor just enjoying the weather, the air and the soft light the day after I arrived home.

if you have an issue with scottish corruption, wait til you learn a thing or two about living in italy

Spain for a kick off, they have the issues with catalan problem and have said they would vote against it.

I'll try and find the underlying report but I'm sure I saw that of those earning £50k or over something like 70% voted conservative.

Have you some war stories to tell of local fixers in Campania?

which I suspect includes a majority of the forum.

Lel, there's more to the forum than the watch and golf threads.

Those £50k people in Scotland are getting hammered compared with RUK in terms of marginal tax rates.

The SG income tax regime has provided a net benefit to the SG budget of £170m at a cost of £900m to the taxpayers.

https://archive.is/vDj0i

Hammered obviously meaning paying more of their fair share.

Is tax ever fair? It's theft isn't it..