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lynx

Are you 'concerned' about vaccine 'passports' and the data collected?

Have been sent this article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/28/give-pause-before-you-raise-a-glass-to-prospect-of-vaccine-passports

Also from the british institute of human rights - https://www.bihr.org.uk/vaccine-passports-health-certificates-and-covid-certifications
Here from Liberty - https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/issue/libertys-view-on-immunity-passports/

This NOT an anti vax thing, but can seen that way. Am more concerned about the data collection and what is done with it, and who has access to it.

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atz in reply to @lynx

Liberty/BIHR aren't so worried about data collection, for the most part they're worried about curtailment of "freedom" for people who don't want to be vaccinated. Given vaccination isn't a golden bullet for 100% immunity, how does anyone propose avoiding people who are anti-vax without some form of proof of vaccination? There's lots of discussion about avoiding a two-tier system for people who don't want to be vaccinated, but what about the rest of the population? Should they have their freedom curtailed for people who choose not to have a vaccine?

People with medical reasons not to have a vaccine I'm obviously fine with, and in an ideal world the rest of us would make up for those gaps but with the rampant fuckwittery around vaccinations, the majority of refusals are not for real medical reasons. Frankly, I'm far more concerned about the freedom of people who are already suffering mentally after 18 months of shielding and sheltering than I am of those who believe in fairy stories.

What's the solution if there's no verifiable proof of vaccination?

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GoatandTricycle in reply to @atz

I’m pretty conflicted. It has some more complexity to that though. What if your type of vaccine isn’t recognised by a country?
We don’t discriminate on other vaccines.
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lynx in reply to @atz

Your first paragraph covers a few things but liberty aren't worried about data collection in the UK as there is a centralised national health service, but even then the security of track and trace is questionable.

Some of my thinking about the two tier system is that a system will continue post covid end.

Does no one else find Eric Clapton ironic comment of not playing to segregated audiences.

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