Saffron Frameworks Dream Bike

I have been misunderstood ! But i stand by my assessment.
90 for a non-ceramic bb is highly priced. What's the point of going c-bear without getting the ceramic option ?

Depends how good C-Bear really are, I guess... if they're as good as CK but £100 less then that seems pretty good. If they're as good as Sram but £60 more - not so much.

Totally see your point... but have no idea how good they actually are. One thing you can say about a CK is that it'll be difficult to break.... and that at least part of the high price comes from the products being made by happy people with decent pay and proper lunch breaks.

Aren’t all C-bear products standard equipped with ceramic bearings?

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Guessing that's what the 'c' stands for then... I just totally missed the point of their business, didn't I!

I mean, if they have well-made BBs with ceramic bearings for £100 that seems like a pretty good deal. I'm really no expert though.

And all this is by-the-by if the MTB Wheels Manufacturing BB works out.

Quick question:

What are the go-to brake pads for carbon rims these days?
Swissstop? Koolstop? Somethingelseendinginstopstop?

Swisstop are bright yellow so they already have the upper hand.

@Señor_Bear I'd be interested to hear what works well with the LB rims : )

I read on here about the yellow leaving a colouration on the rims… not tried them myself but therefore went with swissstop black Prince. Seem good but not tried anything else for comparison. I’m on LB rims.

It is a shame cos who doesn’t want yellow brake pads.

I'm using Black Prince on the LB rims and Zipp Grey on my 303s - the SwissStop are better IMO.

If you shop around you can get them for £20 a set, see and snap up a few sets.

I'm using Lifeline blue ones, cheap as chips and work no better or worse than any others I've tried

which are give or take the ones LB supply along with the rims

@greeno ah yes, cursory google uncovers a few similar complaints. Shame... obviously I couldn't agree more about yellow pads!

Cheers @Señor_Bear that sounds like eminently sensible advice as always : )

@TooTallTim Yeah I think Lifeline always rebadges the popular Orient Express stuff... I've also been looking into skewers and keep spotting the same ones rebadged with different brands.

@Glws So the rims come with pads? Maybe I see how they feel first.

It turns out that the eeBrakes actually do come with pads after all (hiding at the bottom of the box)... they are blue as well so maybe they're the same as Lifeline / LB / etc.

Seeing as I've just mentioned skewers... is there a to-go for responsibly lightweight (ie. safe) road QR skewers?

I have the carbon / ti Lifeline ones on my winter bike and it's difficult to imagine anything with a better weight/price ratio... but maybe this needs something more exciting? (it is the Dream Bike ™ after all).

Probably just in black or silver....

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you have to buy them as extra (10$ per set of 4, which is roughly the same price as the blue wiggle ones) but in the case of a group buy they usually throw some more to sweeten the deal

You could get the same ones with Tune logos for 10x the price?

What are the go-to brake pads for carbon rims these days?

Swissstop Black Prince for me.

It is tempting isn't it!
Tune have at least done a bit more milling on the little sleeve thing that holds the carbon bit...
A reassuringly expensive bit of extra work which looks quite good for skinning fingers.

@Brommers cheers : )

Problem solved:

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Left field suggestion but the grey Vision brake pads are the best I've used. They last about 5 minutes, and squeak (a bit, not loads) in the wet, but they have serious grab.

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/16076625/

@Glws ha ha, I was just looking at that!

I'm a big fan of screw-in bar plugs... but this project is already too spendy so I'll probably just use the ones that come with the tape.

If they keep falling out and are driving me mad then I might switch to these from wiggle.
The '£1 per saved gram threshold' dictates that Lifeline win at £3.07 / 20g a pair vs £28.92 / 12ish grams a pair for ee / Tune, etc.

I think I read somewhere that carbon ones from Berk / Schmolke are actually heavier than the ones that come free with Deda tape. Real weenies drill out the middle to get them down to 3g per pair.

Bar plugs is serious business.

surely

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Dont bother with the wiggle ones. They have the advantage of being screw-ons, but it's impossible to get a very tight fit and they move around.
edit : also look very plastic-y

that on one side, this on the other?

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good intel, cheers!