• I doubled everything on my Ortliebs, top and bottom hooks. It would pop out from the bottom
    with just a lock inside going over a bump and the top rail would bend with just 2 hooks.
    The backing plate is too flexible on Ortliebs.
    I found the klick fix bottom hooks to be a lot stiffer and holding the bottom of the pannier more
    reliable, also better back plate.

  • I found the klick fix bottom hooks to be a lot stiffer and holding the bottom of the pannier more

    reliable, also better back plate.

    Have the same on the Carradice a while ago, was pretty reliable.

    Nothing can beat the old elastic strap design thought;

  • How is that going to be more secure than then Double hooked Ortliebs or the Vaudes than @föhn posted? BTW the gravel pack weight is 1.160, not 1.9 as you stated. For a 25l volume that's not bad going IMO.

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