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  • pretty much, although won't be getting anything for a few months I don't think. It could be the start of a trend, so maybe you'll get bought out by a big bank too!

    I'm not really sure what happens next... am I forced to sell my shares to JPM for cash? or could I be offered shares in Chase UK ?

  • You own shares in the Nutmeg business which I imagine will be no more and rolled in to JPM - it’s likely that all the small shareholders who bought in will be 100% cash out. The terms of the agreement will say and you won’t see that for a while.

  • Before I build my own, has anyone seen or got a good tool for mortgage calculation based on cost, tax reductions, repayment, initial input, offset by interest on earnings etc.

  • That sounds way too complicated. Just borrow what the bank will lend buy something for 50% of that and then spend the rest on upgrading your kitchen so everything is wifi-controlled.

  • I'm an engineer, we like to analyse the fine details to boredom.

  • So am I, but budgets are for Project Managers not Engineers :)

  • Whatevs I just want to maximise my monies and not waste cash on other people.

  • sub it out.*

    I'm sure there is a calculator out there.

  • I estimated that a really detailed calculator could save me ~£200 or so over the ~20 years of my mortgage, compared to the basic simple calculators out there, and so I didn't bother.

    tax reductions

    Thought all of those were gone now? (Or do you mean tax efficient savings like ISAs?)

  • Everyone just borrows as much as humanly possible and (should) invest the spare cash any way how. Investments should return 5% + annually, mortgage will cost significantly less than that for the foreseeable future.

    tl;dr you don't need a spreadsheet

  • Investments should return 5% + annually

    bold. what about risk?

  • Risk? That's what gets you the reward!

    Obvs you might not get 5% per year, some years you might get a lot less, none or negative. But on a long enough timeline with some not totally awful decisions ...

  • agree in broad terms.

    I just think it's worth being clear that paying off the mortgage is almost risk free whereas investments are not, and mostly do not return a nice even 5% p.a., and timing the market generally doesn't work, and economic shocks can upset even a balanced portfolio for a significant period.

  • I can get a tax break on stamp duty, but I'd have to put more cash into the place to get the tax break worth 5% of purchase price.
    So I do need excel to work that out for me.

  • I can get a tax break on stamp duty, but I'd have to put more cash into the place to get the tax break worth 5% of purchase price.
    So I do need excel to work that out for me.

    If the tax break gets you a return on that 5% of purchase price >= to what you could expect should you have invested it then it's a no brainer I would have thought.

  • Been looking into tokenisation of assets recently, looks like it will be a big thing going ahead.

    https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/lu/Documents/financial-services/lu-tokenization-of-assets-disrupting-financial-industry.pdf

    Put a few quid into these guys recently - http://www.trade-strike.com - could be worth a punt if you're into the crypto thing.

  • Seems clear enough to me!

  • Ha, the wacky world of BSC tokens. To be fair it's simpler than it looks. I use Trustwallet to buy BNB Smartchain then just swap in Pancakeswap, it's pretty straightforward.

    Decent guide here too - https://twitter.com/trade_strike/status/1403996637815619584?s=21

  • I got a pay rise of exactly 2.5%, guess that's where the number came from.

  • How is all the crypto stuff going?

    Recent conversation with a divorcee who was ploughing a chunk of her settlement into crypto as it would set her up for rest of life.

    So it's good for widows and orphans now.

  • Depends on your timescale, last 12 months amazing, last 3 months not so much

  • Nice pay cut

  • This reality is so unreal.

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