Which Groupset?

"It’s not possible to tell whether Dura-Ace shares a chain with Shimano’s 12-speed mountain bike groupsets."

I'm going to take a wild guess here

Here's a nice Campagnolo one for you

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This is all I could find. It still shifts better than SRAM.

the sramils seem to be pretty satisfied with their etAp hoods, maybe a dig at this status driven clientele

The cranks look like 10 year old MTB cranks

Not that different from 9100, right?

I think they look bad due to the chainrings. They might've put these on, to fly a little bit more under the radar. I suspect the final release will have different chainrings, similar to 9100.

Yeah, what @tijs said about the cranks and rings, but that doesn’t stop those shifters from being huge and ugly!

is this togs

Definitely not the final crank. Shimano always making ugly cranks but not that ugly, that looks like FSA.

that looks like FSA.

Not a thing any manufacturer wants to hear*

*unless it's a headset

That rear mech looks like it will support a 32T cog

Definitely not the final crank.

I think they are. They're no uglier than 9100 and surely they want to test the real deal instead of some very different proto cranks?

Likely cranks are final but the rings (with tabs) are not. They'll come with hollowforged blended rings £££

The real question is whether they will use a 10-up cassette and microspline body or not. My guess is not with 11-28/30 the smallest cassettes hence the longer cage. They might bring in microspline for 12speed GRX though to allow for some mullets

They're no uglier than 9100

I beg to differ.

Obviously looks are subjective, and I might be blind, but I don't really see a huge difference. Little more square I guess?

They're the same in that they're black and 4 bolt but the arms look flat with raised sides, which is what reminds me of cheap mtb cranks

I'm sure they'll look better with more integrated chainrings but then I was not a fan of 9100 cranks anyway

12speed GRX

That would be a VERY short duration between releases of GRX then

New Shimano cranks

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Again with the boring black.

like that. really wish there were more cranks out there that accepted shimano rings.

Anyone know if an MTB FD would work with road shifters?

Anyone know if an MTB FD would work with road shifters?

You have to be little more specific.

Which groupset (manufacturer)? How many speeds? Mechanical or electronic?

Sorry, 11 speed Shimano. Basically the problem is the bike currently has a road crank on it but have had to shim the BB to get the arm to not rub the stays. Ideally I think an MTB crank would be better but would like a double. I have a road FD but don't think it would reach a 73mm crank.

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I see you're running GRX 1x (with a RD-RX812 rear derailleur). I don't think you'll be able to run a double, because the rear derailleur doesn't have enough capacity for that.

So, I guess you're stuck with 1x. Unless you also plan to replace the rear derailleur.

I can change the rd, got the clutched rd that preceded grx spare. but am running the di2 supposed 1x version 2x without issue.