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• #90777
Thinking the worst of strangers on the Internet has no effect on them and is probably bad for you.
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• #90778
racism doesn't seem to offend most white people or most ignorant people.
mostly
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• #90779
It's not got much effect on me TBH, I'm not particularly fucked about the meme either, I can see what it could mean either way and being posted by you means I'm sure it's meant as more of a slight on the royals than anything else, but saying that, it's also the exact kind of thing that would end up out of context posted around the shittier corners of the internet by people who don't think that, or think much at all. Yeah it probably says more about them that they share something unwittingly attacking the royal family when they're just trying to laugh at the colour of an estranged royal baby, but sometimes you should be at least aware that the unintended consequences of you're actions can be taken out of context when posted to a somewhat public place rather than a joke around a table of like minded supper guests over a glass of port.
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• #90780
I liked the horse fart thing anyway.
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• #90781
I was talking about the Jeanne d'Arc one, I'm sticking up for @PawG after people effectively called them transphobic.
It's for others to decide whether the Lilibet one I posted was OK. Thinking the best of people, I assume that they would recognise all of the references, and read it in context. That still leaves multiple possible reads, at least some of which will be offensive to somebody. -
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• #90783
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• #90784
Interesting concept
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• #90785
Actual lol
The eyebrows on that particular picture of Winnie l'Ourson really tickle me.
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• #90786
Pretentious? Moi?
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• #90787
the exact kind of thing that would end up out of context posted around the shittier corners of the internet
For the sake of research, I did a reverse image search and it turns out that this is true, it has been posted on some pretty rank twitter accounts. Like you, I don't get why flag shaggers would be posting something which is most obviously read as calling out racism in the house of Windsor, but then I guess nuanced thinking isn't their thing
can be taken out of context when posted to a somewhat public place
I'm afraid that ship sailed when it was retweeted by an account with over 200k followers. LFGSS might loom large in our thinking, but it's a minnow in the wider view.
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• #90788
I don't get why flag shaggers would be posting something which is most obviously read as calling out racism in the house of Windsor,
Really?
I think any joke which centres around the colour of someone’s skin is most obviously read as just plain racist.
Memes exist to entertain, not to educate or call anything out. They only people laughing at racism are racists.
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• #90789
Jeanne d’Arc
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• #90790
I'm not with you on the memes not educating anyone. I've learned quite a bit from them. Mostly about popular culture that I'm too old for to be aware of, but sometimes actually contemporary things going on in the world of importance that I've somehow completely missed, or just interesting facts. The argument going on about Jeanne d'Arc illustrates the educational value I think. Of course not everyone will look into the backgrounds of a simple picture with some words on them, but some souls are hard to reach/educate in the first place.
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• #90791
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• #90792
I'm fairly sure Joan's back story, and how the patriarchy is bad could be communicated without the use of the "I identify as..." trope.
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• #90793
^ Same with the royals one. It's just a fairly basic pun on 'lillibet' sounding a bit like 'little bit'.
They could've used any subject to deliver it, but chose race to make it edgy. I don't think it's calling out anything.
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• #90794
They chose race because the whole point is that the lizards racistly asked what colour their children would be.
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• #90795
Still wouldn't say it's calling it out, more making light of it.
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• #90796
people laughing at racism are racists.
And people laughing at racists are what? Was everybody who found Chaplin's Great Dictator funny a fascist?
Memes exist to entertain, not to educate
That's a very narrow view. A strict adherence to the thread title might require humour, but then a strict adherence to the thread title also requires posts to be actual memes, and that part is never enforced either.
If you ignore the picture and concentrate on the text, the question is obviously racist; it is both unanswerable and irrelevant unless you attach significance to some sort of colour chart. By answering with a pun, the exchange is turned into a joke - there is a set up which makes us uncomfortable, and a punchline which pulls the rug out from under the stout party. The picture gives us the exformation, which is in the text for anybody paying attention; that the question was allegedly posed about the Duchess of Sussex' first child by a member of the House of Windsor, and the pun is on her choice of name for second. There is a possible meta joke suggesting that the Duchess is trolling the Windsors with that choice.
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• #90797
Can anyone point me in the direction of the funnies thread? In need of a light chuckle.
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• #90798
Was everybody who found Chaplin's Great Dictator funny a fascist?
Or Alf Garnet.
I thought the intention of the Royals meme was pretty clear.
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• #90799
Calling people stupid who find racist "jokes" offensive, really?
Whatever the intention, it is racist.
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• #90800
Pages of trying to justify a racist meme, wow... A new fucking low...
But then it wouldn't be a joke 🙂