Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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MykneehurtswhenIfix in reply to @Fibreglass

Thanks! Yeah on second inspection with that website as reference, that club logo on the tubes is all wrong

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Rik_Van_Looy in reply to @MykneehurtswhenIfix

Forks look quite track-like so my first thought is that they're converted track bikes.
But bosses for shifters/bottles/cables make that less likely...
as @midlife said, rear facing dropouts were a thing on 80's TT bikes with super tight clearances but these don't look like retro-TT exotica - on balance I'd want to be convinced that they're not meticulously converted track bikes.

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MykneehurtswhenIfix in reply to @Rik_Van_Looy

Thanks for the great info, these things are a total enigma. Might steer clear of them for now, unless they are very cheap then might just be worth the oddity!

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