greentricky-
for what it's worth I don't think it's dismissiveness or PC/woke culture gone mad that is alienating people from the labour party. it's the fact they have nothing to say about their lives, or a vision/offer that will make the country a better place. the reason they don't have anything to say is because the people in charge have no ideas beyond reheated blairism and appeals to 'electability'. they only know how to bully, wreck and be rude. when the labour party did have something to say for people's lives, the self same people spent years briefing and undermining the leadership in the press. hell they even went so far as to create their own astroturfing operation (the people's vote campaign) to wreck the party's electoral prospects because they knew brexit was kryptonite to the party's electoral coalition. the very same people are now turning round and barefacedly saying 'well of course we lost hartlepool, it was a very leave area.' um I'm glad you're exhibiting some understanding of the nuances at play across labour's electoral map but.... lol why did you push and push the party towards its disastrous brexit policy... umad bro ?
anyway I'm in the same place now as the person who posted the dicaprio meme. I wanted to jump in a burning bin on election night in december 2019 but now I'm just numb
(and please don't take what I've written above as a full absolution of the corbyn leadership - it was abysmal in many ways and the 2019 GE campaign was a disaster class. however, before labour can have any chance of progressing it needs to have an HONEST reckoning with what went wrong and right in 2017 and 2019.)
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discussion could probably have ended there and then tbf. those people on those platforms are not debating from a position of good faith (plus they also have very smooth brains)