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  • It is tangentially relevant though isn't it? I think I partially kicked the thread in this direction by posting the clip of Darren Grimes on Julie Hartley Brewers show explaining one of the reasons for red wall seats voting blue is that they are tired of what they perceive as wokeism and Labour pandering to 'twitter issues' and don't like being called rascist, biggoted, xenophobic by out of touch liberal city types. We have probably seen that play out in the last few pages and it is the hole that labour need to square.

    I asked what can Labour do if the general electorate has moved further right than Labour philosophically/ morally is able to but no one responded.
    (I think that if Labour could sell a vision that inspired people then they would vote for them as jobs, health, prosperity are more important to voters than peoples personal views on social issues but currently it appears to by the incumbent selling the vision of a better future.)

  • what can Labour do if the general electorate has moved further right than Labour philosophically

    I think this is a great question. Personally I think it's not that (most) people are strongly to the right on these issues, but that they think they are a lower order of priority than other stuff (covid at the moment). My feeling is that the pushback isn't "we don't care about equality" but more "there are bigger incidences of inequality that we see". So there's probably an element of needing to push social issues more in a bouyant economy, when people have more mental bandwidth to consider them.

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