That Starmer fella...

I've yet to hear the arguments for, apart from by those involved.

Exactly. But I don’t think we’ve even had those.

• More advertising and broadcast rights revenue
  
• The "best" teams with the best players playing each other all the time rather than only rarely, which means the quality of the product (F.K.A. the "matches") will apparently be better
  
• More access to emerging football markets in South East Asia, Africa and the USA
  
• More similarities to other marketable sports e.g. those in the US
  
• Fewer ties to local communities means it will be easier to stage matches in other countries
  

One leaked sales doc isn’t enough for a verdict. I’d like to hear a defence before publicly stating opposition. I guess there’s no time for patience.

Labour MP's ideas on how to win 'the working class vote'.

https://fabians.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/FABJ8753-Fabian-Ideas-pamphlet-WEB-210406v1.pdf

I don't especially like the idea of 'the working class vote' as a general principle but we do need to work out how to appeal to the voters we've lost, however we define that.

What reason could there be?

What's the explanation that you think might come out to clarify why some of the richest clubs in the world want to break away and form a league that would be more profitable for them at the expense of others?

Do you think there's some great humanitarian cause or a genuine moral purpose behind it that we just haven't heard about yet?

I remember seeing that landlord being a complete prick to his staff one time I was in there. Also find the ‘lifelong labour voter’ thing a bit dubious.

So it's no secret that I've been of the opinion that those criticising Starmer for being too soft on Johnson were being premature. I think that up until now he's not really had the proper opportunity or the opening to really take Johnson down; moreover it's not something that I think people have wanted to see.

I am now of the opinion that that time is up. This is when Starmer really needs to let loose on Johnson. He needs to make his punches land. He needs to absolutely decimate Johnson at PMQs in an hour or so; not just in terms of the whole argument (which hardly anyone apart from me will watch), but in terms of what quotes he gets landing on the main news programmes. He needs to win the public over. He needs to show Johnson up for the shady chancer he is.

If Starmer can't do this today then I am going to be much less enthusiastic a defender of the guy. I think we're at the point where softly softly is no longer justifiable. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

decimate Johnson at PMQs in an hour or so

Lol, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if he lands anything.

Lol, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if he lands anything.

I wouldn't. This should be shooting fish in a barrel. Anyone in parliament should be able to take him down. If Starmer does, good - he's done his job. If he doesn't, he's hopeless (or Johnson will have pulled off something pretty spectacular).

And the Electoral Commission opens up investigation. Will make it tricky to ask specific questions, but Starmer's a lawyer. I would imagine he'd know how to ask legally appropriate questions (not that Johnson has to answer them).

meh

He tried but there wasn't really anything there. Just asking questions that are already in the press. I'm glad he didn't bring up the fucking football shit.

Sorry, missed this. But looks like it’s already wrapping chips.

Feasibility of PL? Not aware of humanitarian/moral purpose but seems unlikely.

I thought that was great. I'm not sure whether much of it will cut through, depends what he gets quoted on in the news cycles, but I've never seen Johnson so rattled.

By the last question, when Johnson was red-faced and ranting with a pointed finger, he had never looked less like cuddly Boris, and more like the Eton ponyfucking ham-faced elite he is. If that's on the main news, Johnson is fucked.

I also think Johnson fucked up in his response to Ian Blackford - a clear and open denial of the 'bodies' remark vs a refusal to answer the question against Starmer. I think there's enough in that PMQs for Johnson to resign and possibly end up prosecuted. It's not probable, but it's more probable than it's ever been.

Then we'll have Gove or Patel for Conservative leader!

I think there's enough in that PMQs for Johnson to resign and possibly end up prosecuted.

Fuck me we watched something different.

I agree he looked angry at the end and would have enjoyed more poking.

I am still firm on Sunak will be the next PM.

You know how the voxpop-ish encounters give a sense that the people have a very cynical view of corruption in government in that they think that all are corrupted. In such landscape does this whole sleaze thing matter?

Naive question on PMQs; how do they trickle down to better election or poll results?

I agree he looked angry at the end and would have enjoyed more poking.

I've not seen it yet, but Johnson must be fuming about this. He's just had to personally foot a massive bill for a flat that isn't even his and that he know's he'll be walking away from in (best case, if all things go to his plans) a few years. Is the £200K figure I've seen written about correct?

And having had to finally pay it he's still getting it from all sides, investigations launched, tabloid judgement on his grotty wallpaper from proles who didn't even know £850 a roll stuff existed. Must be galling.

I am still firm on Sunak will be the next PM.

Sunak is the one that scares me the most. I know Gove is angling, maybe Patel is too, but it'd be the end of the Tories as the party of govt if they do. People dislike them. They get the whiff of weirdo from them.

Sunak has some unique challenges but he's intelligent, can do likeable, and he's utterly without principle. You're absolutely right with this. Sunak is the threat. If the Tories know what's good for their grasp on power - and they always do - then they'll make it Sunak.

proles who didn't even know £850 a roll stuff existed.

Clearly not 'on here' #40kkitchen

Yeah it was 'nothing to see here'. Johnson managed the answers pretty well tbh, went on the front foot and sounded credible even if he's still probably lying.

Noone watches PMQs really so it doesn't really matter anyway

Isn’t Sunak a bit BAME?

The Tories are slippery, the nearer they get to needing a new leader the more you’ll see some upstarts appearing as if they’ve been busily beavering away forever doing important parliamentary business.

I think thats where he shines, if tories make him a PM, they instantly solve racism and can freely say, we are not racists we made a brown guy PM! They have loads of racists BAME people in the government/cabinet/advisory.

Bailey, Kwasi, Patel, Javid, Mirza, Sharma, Cleverly, Zahawi etc etc

Gotta give it to Gove for being consistent and always there in the ether.

It's going to always slightly ruin the kitchen for him isn't it - knowing that he actually had to pay for that stuff.

Especially when his kid starts going near it with their crayons.

Johnson will be in power for a decade I reckon. He’ll allow Scotland to leave in the next parliament forever shutting the door on a Labour majority. Labour will be the party of the cities and win the popular vote 9/10 elections but due to the electoral system rarely gain power and the majority to wield it. Same same as the Democrats in the USA.