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I only just built my first wheelset using sub 1.8mm spokes, and the windup thing was quite a battle compared to thicker spokes I'm used to. Found after a while that I was able to feel the grip and slip of the nipples esp' when doing the backing off quite smoothly and with purpose.
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I may actually be doing that without fully realizing as I try to keep nipple edges aligned at easily discernible angles over the course of the build, going past them by a bit and then bringing them back. I don’t think there’s any good reason for the alignment thing, but if it’s been keeping the spokes from winding up, well good.
withered_preacher
@gbj_tester and @Skülly and @Brommers thanks.
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