Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Not long enough for you

Ha bummer

Endura Pro SL worth a look for the long of leg. I'm pretty happy with them after numerous failed attempts to get on with Rapha, Albion etc

Anyone got suggestions for decent bibs with shorter legs whilst we're on leg length discussion? My favourites are an ancient set from Endura but they're full of holes and it's a matter of time before I end up exposing myself to someone.

Do the core bib tights also suffer from this?

Edit: sorry thought you were talking about the non-cargo core bib shorts, not the longs.

Disappointing to learn that it's still a problem with the core cargo.

Assos T Equipe Evo. Currently the best bibs I've owned personally (Galibier, Rapha, Le Col, Bontrager, Altura, Endura, Pearl Izumi previously/currently)

Definitely shortest in the leg. I got a pair off Wiggle for around £90 and then another for £73, which is very good. Can't comment on durability but I don't foresee issues.

Cargo bibs: who makes good ones other than Rapha?

I need some new ones. Core go see through, and Brevet are too stretchy/loose fitting for me. I hear Albion have some in the works, but doubt they will be available anytime soon.

Pedaled make some, not tried but their kit is usually good quality.

Me and @amey looked into this.

Pedaled ones have terrible pockets. Literally an awful design for the sake of being different.

Endura ones pretty good.

Sportful ones. Shit pocket. Shit pad.

Lusso ones pretty good. Awful font.

Etxeondo ones great.

@cake and i went on a research journey

Imo extendo (cant spell; the basque brand) are the best

J thought endura were good too but too short

Snap!

Shame the Etxeondo are out of stock everywhere.

Assos should make one.

I have begun my journey to completely get rid of Rapha from my life to mismatch kit.

just checked the Etexeoondddoneno ones. Look good. Out of stock in small tho.
:(

finally read that khole article?

terrible pockets

Am I remembering correctly that they’re upside down?

no :( pls link me

almost a decade old now, a formative piece of the 2010's aesthetic

http://khole.net/issues/youth-mode/

https://uk.lapassione.cc/collections/mens-bib-shorts-shorts/products/cargo-bib-shorts?usf=1&variant=33876073414796

Yep

That PDF (prescient?!??) was totally Mexico.

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My go-to glasses for shit weather (i.e 300 days a year) have died. Anyone's got a mark 1 frame going spare?

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That'll Sugru out.

They look decent, thanks for that! I'll keep an eye out for a cheap pair.

They're a major part of my signature look, I can't add Sugru to that...