• I recently ordered 165 dub crank quarq from sigma. I would recommend emailing them.

  • Anyone had power2max Type-S meter light up when you put a battery in (so it's getting power) but do absofuckinglutely nothing when you try and pair it to a collection of Garmins and a Wahoo? Like the transmitter has died or something.

    I ride this motherfucker across continents and then give it to the missus and it lasts about 2 hours. FFS

  • Tried doing the reverse polarity trick with the battery?

  • I put it in backwards just to make sure that the way I was putting it in was correct. Is there a duration of time it should be in backwards?

  • I don’t think so. Not sure what else to suggest really.

  • Anyone using Look Keo cleats with Powertap P1 pedals? Looks as though you can't get the Wellgo (or Powertap branded version) very easily now.

  • Also there will be conversion kits to make your existing Vectors into Rally and to also swap the spindle between pedal bodies so you could have SPD-SL in summer and SPD in winter

  • yea the backward compatibility with vectors is nice. i am going to get a set of used vector 3s and buy the xc pedal body. perfect for the winter road/summer gravel bike.

  • I use Keo cleats with p1s, no issues for the past 18 months of doing so after going through multiple pairs on multiple shoes.

  • $1200?! You can get four Stages LHS cranks for that.

    [Edit: also the MTB pedals are apparently 8mm thicker than Shimano. Which seems significant]

  • $1200?! You can get four Stages LHS cranks for that.

    You could also get about 35 chocolate teapots. What's your point?

  • I'm comparing power meters on price.

    Are you saying Stages or perhaps crank-based power meters are useless? In what way?

  • testing in a paper and also in my own experience stages' unit to unit variance is substantial, worse than other brands. and at least in my case l/r balance varies according to a bunch of things and isn't consistent over time. makes the readings neither consistent nor accurate. how relevant that is i guess depends on how hard you stare at your numbers. i've been much happier with the garmin and quarq i have now (more with the latter).

  • Doubling one sided is inherently flawed.

  • There's a fundamental issue with simply doubling a single side measurement, as has been pointed out, unless you're physiologically unique and can guarantee your L/R power output is equal at all intensities.

    Quite apart from that, my experience and those of other people I know is that Stages PMs are pretty flakey. I know of at least a dozen that have had to be returned after warranty, and I know of quite a few people who've given up on them and moved to different setups. I had one. I gave it away to a friend.

  • what @croft and @Brommers said... my power dropped when I moved from single sided to dual. Of course yours might go up if your imbalance is the opposite of mine.

  • This is interesting, good move from Garmin I think.

  • Favero Assioma also thought to be releasing an axle only PM unit that you can swap into a Shimano pedal you already own

    https://cyclingtips.com/2021/02/leaked-favero-assioma-shimano-compatible-power-meter-pedal/

  • Not had a power meter since an SRM on my track bike about 10 years ago, but decided to splurge on a Quarq for my new road bike (which is hopefully due in a couple of weeks!).

    Gone with the dzero dub 110 5 bolt. Any tips / things to look out for? Chainring recommendations?

  • Is it hidden bolt or not?
    Praxis rings are decent.

  • Thanks all. I suspect my shit-tier LHS powermeter is still sufficient for my actual needs... I have remembered mine is a 4iiii, not Stages though 🤷‍♂️

  • Thanks, I'll take a look. Its a non hidden version

  • if i'm looking to buy a power meter this summer andI'm probably going to go Garmin pedal based as I run campag on summer bike. Should I look for a pair of reduced vectors or a pair of the rallys?

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