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Don't forget a lot of people in their 80s get really ill for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with vaccinations.
How to Vaccinate the World is worth a listen, annoyingly I can't remember which episode dealt with the number of people you would expect to die shortly after receiving the vaccine. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000py6s/episodes/downloads
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An acquaintance of a mate if mine said her parents got really ill after vaccination, both in their 80s
But she said they had no idea where to report neither had hospital staff, I thought if true that's a serious training oversight.
It might be a serious training oversight, but it could be rectified by suggesting they read the patient information leaflet.
At least for AZ, this suggests (to the patient) that they talk to their doctor, pharmacist or nurse, or report it directly via https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/, or use the MHRA Yellow Card app.
Some of what they are picking up is pretty bad, and it’s probably more helpful to look at it as clotting abnormalities rather than just blood clots. They are reporting various different blood clots (including a cluster of cases with venous sinus thrombosis which is a blood clot in the veins draining the brain - very serious of left untreated), along with thrombocytopaenia (not enough platelets, which usually causes you to bleed more) and disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) which is where your body’s clotting cascades go completely haywire and you simultaneously clot a lot and also bleed a lot. That last one usually only occurs when someone is critically unwell (eg often found when a patient is on ITU) so it is concerning if this is happening out of the blue in previously young and well patients. However it seems we don’t yet have enough information about causation, the background of the patients who these possible complications occurred in, and whether there is an actual statistically significant difference to draw firm conclusions about whether these potential risks outweigh the benefits of having a vaccinated population.