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  • i was specifically talking about testing kids who are self isolating though.

    Guess the good thing is you test the isolating kids anyway and if they test positive too then the house isolates, rather than goes to work or whatever and spreads it around more.

  • How big are the boxes?

  • Eldest had her first test at school today. Apparently nasal swab only, they were told not to swab their tonsils. The whole year was negative so meatspace classes tomorrow.

  • Not very, like 20cm x 15cm X 3cm ish. I just wasn't sure what was going on, if my daughter was getting tested or we were just picking up tests, nothing was particularly clear so went with covering the most bases.

  • No idea, GF is a teacher in a secondary school who don't have a clue what is going on.

  • Picked up some LFD tests yesterday. Quite a lot of information required to register a negative test.

  • About 20 8/9 year old kids packed off to quarantine because the teacher tested positive. When you hear people talking about how badly the UK has handled test and trace compared to Asia, remind them that in Asia its test, trace and isolate. That last bit includes being fed through a slot in the door or having meals left on a stool outside the door. All because a teacher/work colleague/person in your gym class tested positive.
    https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/hong-kong-sends-class-of-8-year-olds-to-government-quarantine

  • One year on since bangface, still can’t believe they let it go ahead.

  • LOL,,,NOT ONLY HAS MOST OF MY FAMILY BEEN LYED TO AND INJECTED WITH THE TRUTH SERUM BUT NOW IVE BEEN TRICKED INTO SENT THEM A COMPLETE COPY OF MY DNA FOR ""TESTING"" LOL CAN YOU EVEN BELEIVE THIS,,,TURNED INTO ONE OF THEM SHEEP

    Uh, anyway. So decided to shell out for an antibody test on the off-chance that this constant exhaustion, headaches and fog I've got is something like long Covid instead of just me being shit. Used the Testing for All site that @JWestland used a few pages back.

  • If you aren't a good bleeder (I'm not) stick your arm (not just hand) into warm water that will help.

    "Just me being shit" awk no joy with gp I take it?

    Can be so many things unfortunately...

  • People on my Facebook getting worried as some countries are investigating blood clots that -may- be linked to vaccine.

    People seem to be freaking out over tiny risks ATM and that's normal cos human, but I've no idea how to counter it.

  • People on my Facebook getting worried as some countries are investigating blood clots that -may- be linked to vaccine.

    People seem to be freaking out over tiny risks ATM and that's normal cos human, but I've no idea how to counter it.

    Also look at some of the references/retweets from this doctor: https://twitter.com/xandvt

  • Tx can try it.

    People don't seem to get risk, they just read omg those countries suspended the vaccine!!!! and that is it.

    I'm more a number person I guess?

  • If you aren't a good bleeder (I'm not) stick your arm (not just hand) into warm water that will help.

    I got a good bleed, that was a pretty vicious lancet!

    "Just me being shit" awk no joy with gp I take it?

    Can be so many things unfortunately...

    Literally no idea. Quite a lot is probably circumstantial because I’ve got my hands full with a toddler and now we have a break from shielding I’m trying to move house to get away from shithead new neighbours who have been a nightmare since they moved in at the beginning of lockdown 1. That and sleeping in the spare room so they don’t keep me up every night. Trying to work full time and do childcare. Not always getting to eat properly because the food deliveries regularly substitute critical stuff off or we just forgot to order certain things.

    But I did get a little ill at the beginning of January and I wonder in hindsight if it might have been a mild dose of Covid and (again hindsight) I probably should have just gone and got a test despite not really having ‘proper’ Covid symptoms. The tiredness and exhaustion predates all of that though, so I mostly just put it down to that.

    I was also really, really ill with full flu at the end of December 2019. I’ve started to wonder if it was actually flu and not an early Covid case. I did have a bad cough with it and lung irritation, which I haven’t had before when I’ve had full flu.

  • People on my Facebook getting worried as some countries are investigating blood clots that -may- be linked to vaccine.

    People seem to be freaking out over tiny risks ATM and that's normal cos human, but I've no idea how to counter it.

    Isn't it something like 30 blood clots out of 5 million doses?

    I'd be curious to know how that compares to expected prevalence of blood clots in a sample size of five million.

  • It's already been posted in this thread but what the hell...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/15/evidence-oxford-vaccine-blood-clots-data-causal-links

    Working on the basis of these figures, out of 5 million people getting vaccinated, we would expect significantly more than 5,000 DVTs a year, or at least 100 every week.

  • We would also expect a higher rate of blood clots unhealthy women taking contraceptive pills but that is women's problems so doctors/media don't really care. Kind of similar to how we accept drivers killing half a dozen people a day I suppose.

  • Very helpful, also interesting section on after effects.

    Some kind of adverse events were reported by 38% of those receiving the real vaccine but, rather remarkably, 28% of those who received the dummy also reported a side-effect.

    Does that mean that 75% of the symptoms described on here by people after having taken the jab were not attributable to the vaccine?

  • No, it means that placebo can also cause side effects.

  • You are all correct the blood clots is probably a false correlation.

    But not everyone thinks that way.

    If you are already distrustful of NHS / don't like being vaccinated / are more a "copy others" rather than "read numbers" person then those omfg reactions are I think just happening.

    Close passes freak me out but not others, from a pure risk thing nothing happened cos I wasn't hit 😁

    So I'm definitely going to post about my vaccination to calm people but maybe it's not the same conversation if it's numbers vs feeling scared?

  • Oh wow bad sleep / food so so / moving home / social stress / small child yeah that's a cluster of less than ideal circumstances...

    I had a "living dead" phase before my son slept through the night and all new parents at work always look exhausted.

    Huel makes me burpy so not for me but it's a powdered vegan protein rich meal shake maybe a quick food fix?

    Even so will definitely be good to know if you've had Covid or not.

  • Side affect chat, my mum got jabbed at 60odd, nothing much, younger brother got jabbed, not long after testing positive and felt like shit for 24 hours.

  • Aren't the clots all associated with a single batch? That was how I heard it reported on C4 news a few days ago

  • I heard something like that on R4 but I haven't seen anything in print. I think they said it was a batch of 1 million. If that is the case in my back of an envelope calculations they go from less likely than normal (30 a week compared to expected 100 a week in 5 million) to a bit worse than normal (still 30 but now expected 20). I'd still have the jab if offered.

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