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If you're not getting CX-Rays, get Sapim Race, DT Comp or some other conventional 14/16g double butted spoke. Skinny round spokes confer no advantage which would compensate for the increase in cost and irritation.
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I have a wheelset with those exact rims and hubs, build by LB with Pillar spokes and (at my request) brass nipples. Sapim Race are far easier to build something stiff. I would probably have gone for CX Ray front and Race rear if I'd built mine.
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I think Lasers/D-Light have their place (used that combination on a pair of underbuilt 28/32 rims).
According to this deep section carbon rims with lightweight spokes might produce some undesirable results.When you start climbing or sprinting on a carbon wheel, the stiff rim tends to want to stay perfectly straight – relative to itself.
This gets compounded by the fact that most “race” wheels have thin aerodynamic spokes – AND not very many of them. On top of that, in very recent years, we have also seen carbon rims grow in both width and depth – subsequently gaining both lateral and radial stiffness.
What this adds up to is the perfect wheel storm: An astoundingly stiff, deep-section carbon rim – strapped on to a handful of thin aero spokes. The stiff rim can literally overpower the spokes. If your rim rubs your rear brake pads, this is probably why. -
brass nipples all the way when your wanna ride all year. lasers are a little more stretchy than thicker spokes in terms of building with them, thus maybe resulting in more "pain-in-the-ass" moments for the builder. I have used a wheelset for 5-ish years with laser spokes, 40mm alu rims and 20/24 holes and they are still fine. your plan with laser front and d-light rear seems sound.
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After much sitting on the fence I've decided to go down the custom wheelset path after realising that it isn't horrendously expensive and gives me the chance to nerd out a bit on components that I normally overlook. This is for an MGOOF project so weight and performance aren't my guiding criteria. That said, if these can be achieved without spending big £, it would obviously be nice to be as light and stiff as possible. Which leads nicely to my question on spokes.
First, some context:
I've been looking at Sapim's range as it was easiest for a layman like me to understand. CX ray I needed no introduction to. But at around £2.50/spoke this is excessive for a non-aero frame. So I'm leaning more towards the Lasers or D-lights. Lasers get a bad rep from what I've seen - are they that much of a pain? The D-lights seem to be solid but with a minor weight penalty. I'm also thinking that I could maybe put lasers on the front and d-lights on the rear - is this a good way to go? In case it makes a difference, I'm going for silver spokes and nipples. And brass vs. alloy nipples?
Big thanks in advance for any advice. And if I should be considering Pillars or DT offerings I'm happy to consider them. Ta