• Yeah I get ya. I read "adventures" as more adventurous than what could be done on a gravel bike with 2.0 tyres

    Don't forget though a hardtail will steepen in use much more than an FS, so that cotic looks rad static but by the time it has sagged a little bit under @hippy 's weight....

  • Ok, so that's a thing I have no concept of. I mean, I know what happens with suspension but how do I know what's too steep etc? That's why I was just gonna buy a Surly like everyone rides TD with.

  • For every 2cm of sag the head tube steepens by 1 degree. Cotic geo charts take sag into account.

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