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Your post may have been aimed at someone in particular, but everyone could read it.
If you're going to suggest stupid things that everyone can read, then quite rightly you will get called out on it. It's not like it's a one off, I seem to remember you recently thinking out loud about whether you could 'nip' off to France then return without self-isolating, when travel to France is illegal and you are legally obliged to quarantine, but also it's fucking obvious that there's a moral imperative there too.
I do understand the difference between gaming a system and deliberately defrauding it and guess what - yes they are the same to me in that I would find doing either unconscionable during a global pandemic.
On our vaccination centre: no, we don't use up all of the allotted vaccine and we don't have 100% attendance. You wouldn't get either of these at any vaccination centre in the country, but ours is in the most deprived area of London, which has a 69% minority ethnic population.
You may have heard in the news that uptake is worrying low among these groups, which is ironic because they are most at risk of being hospitalised or dying from Covid. So our priority is vaccinating these at risk groups. Like everyone else running vaccination centres, we haven't been given a proper plan for how to use up the leftover vaccine by the Government/NHS, but we're doing our best.
Either way, having a bunch of worried well turning up to try and game the system would be deeply unhelpful and it's not going to work either as so far if we can't find people from the appropriate groups in the local community they have gone to our staff, many of whom are essential/key workers.
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Will come back to this another day, when I'm in a better place.
Once again quote the whole lot about going to France. Just a quick reminder that the french have alot stricter lock down. So I would need a valid reason to travel from the UK to France. Think about why I would be allowed to travel.
But seeing as you comment without thinking, should I point out that your hypocrisy know no bounds? Or just not in a pandemic? I did call you out about it at the time too.
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I do understand the difference between gaming a system and deliberately defrauding it and guess what - yes they are the same to me in that I would find doing either unconscionable during a global pandemic.
I’m not keen on getting involved, but I did want to say that I think this statement is a bit unfair (for lack of a better word). My understanding of Lynx’s reasoning for his vaccine suggestion is that there are doses potentially going to waste because of various reasons but mainly administrative ones that need sorting out. Your centre has found uses for the surplus, but he found a centre that was content to apply the vaccine to a walk-in. Is it more morally questionable to allow a life-saving medicine to be lost, or to try and find a use for it even on one’s self? He’s not exactly cutting the queue, and his reasoning was sound enough that the centre staff agreed with it.
I’m not saying one moral choice is preferable to the other, I’m just saying that there’s a valid argument to be made for both, and his reasoning isn’t necessarily stupid or fraudulent. His suggestion may be misguided in that we should all be locked down, but it’s in response to an actual moral and administrative insufficiency.
Do the centres have a list of less-at-risk people who are 100% committed to dropping whatever they’re doing at 4pm and going to get vaccinated from the surplus doses? It’s a job for the GPs, but perhaps that’s a way to minimise spoilage.
Adding: I wouldn’t recommend following Lynx’ suggestion, please register your interest with your GP instead.
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@Fox As selective quoting changes the meaning of the post and who it was in answer too.. The post was aimed at someone in particular and to them. Selective quoting alters the meaning of the post. Therefor contradicts what you posted with:
Does your vaccination center use up all of the allotted vaccine? Does your center have a 100% attendance?
Finally, why not comment on the forum members claim to have covid symptoms to get tests, as that is abusing the system.
Do you understand the difference between gaming a system and deliberately defrauding a system? Or are they the same to you?