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  • no... I just got peppered with popups.

  • Pop ups are not a usual side effect...

  • Got jabbed yesterday. unsure if the tiredness is because of the immune response or the fact I have two kids. Had a nap anyway. Don't feel better for it. Bit of a headache.
    Not getting any faster query folding on power bi though.

  • My colleague was jabbed yesterday and was pretty wiped today, headache too

  • If you want a jab, why not hang around a few jab centers near the end of the day and you might get lucky.

    Please don't do this. Imagine if everyone did it.

  • Yeah restating : don't hang around vaccine centres it'll make you look like a right wrong un.

  • @Fox either quote the whole post or none.

    But as you made your choice, lets look at a few realities. The vaccines do not store well, they don't like being refrozen. The pfizer especially, do you know what the storage temp of the vaccine is? Here is an idea https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54889084. But BBC fake bias news.

    People miss appointments and isn't it a good idea to use up the shots rather than just throw them away? If you really want to jump the queue, why not?

  • I have 2 teacher friends who've had it as their schools are on the contact list for the end of the day leftovers. Much happier that they (and other key workers) are getting those than randoms who fancy jumping the queue.

  • Remember my issue with the spacing of the pfizer vaccine? Looks like https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccine-doses-shouldnt-be-more-than-six-weeks-apart-scientist-behind-pfizer-biontech-jab-says-12215576 read the article. If you can't be arsed

    Asked if that was wrong, he told Sky News: "As a scientist, I wouldn't mind if the second dose of the vaccine is given three weeks, four weeks, maybe five weeks, even up to six weeks might still be okay.
    "But I wouldn't delay that further. As a scientist I believe that it is not good to go longer than six weeks."
    Prof Sahin acknowledged governments have difficult decisions to make with limited supplies of the vaccine, but he added that there needs to be recognition of the limited protection provided by just one dose.

    "The pros are very clear - by immunising more people we could get benefit to more people.
    "But we need to be also aware that we will only get partial benefit to more people.
    "So at the end of the day it is a risk-benefit assessment from governmental bodies whether the benefit by reaching more people is sacrificed by giving less protection to the vaccinated people."

    As you can go back and check, my issue still is that going against the makers directions. If others know better, than the person who developed the vaccine, the developer wants to see the proof. Looks like his opinion is more valid than mine chatting in random cycling forum. But it feels good (?) that the developer of a vaccine feels the same me. That is a piss take comment.

  • Please don't do this. Imagine if everyone did it.

    Fallacy: Appeal to extremes

  • either quote the whole post or none.

    Why would I quote the rest of your post?

    The first sentence was about how some of your friends have gamed the system to get the Oxford jab. The rest was a rambling edit presumably aimed at @Sifta

    Neither had anything to do with hanging around vaccination centres.

    Either way, I'm fairly sure I get to decide whether to quote a whole post or not.

    My point was don't encourage people to do this, it's irresponsible. If everybody did it, it would be impossible to run vaccination centres. My work runs a vaccination centre and if anyone does come and hang around it like a creepy weirdo it's very likely we'll get security to escort you off the premises.

  • Agree with you. There are cases of the people giving the vaccine trying to find people to vaccinate so the vaccines are not waisted. Just prefer the vaccine are used.

    Doctors have been calling in patients at very short notice to get the vaccine. So maybe call your doctors surgery and update them with your job and phone number.

  • @Fox As selective quoting changes the meaning of the post and who it was in answer too.. The post was aimed at someone in particular and to them. Selective quoting alters the meaning of the post. Therefor contradicts what you posted with:

    My point was don't encourage people to do this, it's irresponsible. If everybody did it, it would be impossible to run vaccination centres
    Did I encourage or just say to one person who wanted to jump the queue that he could do that.

    It would be impossible to run vaccination centres. My work runs a vaccination centre

    Does your vaccination center use up all of the allotted vaccine? Does your center have a 100% attendance?

    Finally, why not comment on the forum members claim to have covid symptoms to get tests, as that is abusing the system.

    Do you understand the difference between gaming a system and deliberately defrauding a system? Or are they the same to you?

  • Has anyone given plasma who has had Covid? I’m in the SE considering it but would like to know a little more before I make contact.

  • Think you need to be over fifty and eat lots of pies.....someone a lot like me then

  • Oh I knew there was a male preference but didn’t realise age too

  • I did, however it was quite a long time after infection (infection was presumed in March last year, confirmed when I was offered an antibody test as part of the Imperial study in June). By the time I donated I didn’t have a high enough concentration of them to be of much use, so they didn’t ask me back to give a second donation but the procedure itself was fine. No more painful than standard blood giving, although longer. I found watching the machine they hook you up to for extracting the plasma fascinating but appreciate not everyone might share that! Happy to talk via PM if you have any specific questions.

  • I offered and am waiting to hear back, but vaccine will effect that. There was a drive for white men on the radio recently.

    Believe they are looking for people to use the plasma for studies.

  • It’s been ages since I’ve given blood. I can’t really recall the process even.
    What differs? What sort of side effect does it have? I tested positive on 1st Jan only had mild symptoms (unsure if this is a factor)

    • deleted as I will wait for updates from hospital -
  • You’re there for considerably longer, about 50 minutes in my case. Instead of just being hooked up to a little bag that fills up with blood they attach you to a big machine that takes your blood, strips the plasma out, then returns it to your body. The needle is about the same as standard blood donation. You recover from it quicker, so can donate again after a shorter period than with whole blood and it didn’t knock my training back like giving blood does.

    The machine goes through cycles of taking and returning blood, on the return cycles you can get a bit cold and on the taking cycles I had to do similar hand squeezing exercises to standard blood giving to keep my blood pressure up. Other than that it was just a case of settle back and while the time away for me.

    They do prefer men and do a couple of tests when you arrive to check it’s safe for you to donate. I can’t quite remember what they were but I think it was BMI and some blood value from a finger prick test.

  • Plasma is what the red, white and platlets float around in.

    You get free biccies (usually bourbon, nice and digestive) and tea and bad coffee.

  • iron level / anaemia check? Or is that just blood donation?

  • Normal whole blood donation you bleed into a bag. Component donation, including plasma, they hook you up to a centrifuge which separates out the bits they want and the rest goes back into you.

    I donate at Edgware and there are always people doing components. I did get invited to donate platelets a few years ago but the extra frequency and time didn't work for me then so I've not done the centrifuge thing.

  • They do prefer men

    Apparently plasma from women is mostly discarded due to antibodies that women that have been pregnant can have which can be harmful. As a result there is no point doing a plasma only donation from a woman. I think they could screen for the antibody but don't for some reason.

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