Cargo Bikes

What ever I do get, will have to be stored on the street

In which case I'd be checking what insurance you can get that will cover that; cargo bikes are niche, but a £2k bike locked on the street is a £2k bike locked on the street; I know a couple of folks who have had their bakfiets nicked.

true range of the e-bullitt bike with an approx 100-120kg load

If I am very lucky, I can get about 85km out of a full charge on eco mode with my ~9kg daughter up front (including the bike our weight is around 105kg). The reality is that it entirely depends upon how hilly your journeys are and how much work the motor is doing. Worst of all is that I find the distance left calculation is complete BS. It will say 20km left leaving the house and then die in 5 (usually as I'm going up a hill).

I’m running 3x9 but realistically use the middle ring 99.9%of the time, normally loaded up with two 25kg four year olds and random snacks, drinks, oh and two early rider bikes too! , I’m using a 11-42 cassette with an old deore xt long cage mech, I do find it pretty “gappy” and would go closer range if I lived somewhere flatter. (I live on the edge of Dartmoor)

good to know thanks. Having never used an e-bike yet I'd like to think I would still use as little as the power a I need until knackered.. but I reckon that would quickly change!

yeah, this is a concern. I'm looking locally for a storage space

Another argument for a trailer, much cheaper to replace.

11-36, sram X0 10 speed. 32 up the front.

I gave up some top speed so I have small gaps where I use the cassette the most. Would get a larger cassette if I lived somewhere with more hills than London though.

I reckon a trailer would be better suited, I have a 6ftx2ft wide flatbed with 8” side trailer and it’s waaaay more useful than the cargo bike for long things like strimmers etc

I don't want to accept this.... but its possibly a more suitable initial logistical solution. (bar the power)

what trailer is it, or did you make it yourself?

You want my set-up.

On my e6100 bullitt I guess I would easily get 30 km on a charge with that weight. Probably much more actually. Hard to know. Hills change that markedly. Spending as much time in ECO mode
as possible ensuress that sort of range.

You want a cargo box like mine. It is extremely durable and utilitarian, and the sides pop off with a single truck strap that allows you to carry large awkwardly shaped cargo when necessary. You can drill all kinds of holes in it and make simple bolt on accessories. I use it for everything from child transport to lawn care to groceries to giant piles of bricks. The sort of weight you mention is peanuts for it.

I don't know how you'll park it on the street without a lot of anti-theft planning.

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I don't want to accept this.... but its possibly a more suitable initial logistical solution. (bar the power)

The answer is creating some very simple bolt on straps and hooks off the side of it for longer tools and using the bucket to throw gas cans and smaller items in. I've done it.

I don't know if you plan to use a lawn mower, but that may be an issue.

I've definitely toyed with the idea of a trailer off that back of my cargo bike for serious transport potential.

I made it myself, I don’t like spending money so made the cargo bike, made the rear rack and made the trailer. It’s a bit rough and could do with stronger wheels if I’m honest but it’s perfect for what I use it for, the tree is 7ft for scale.

Take a look at Carla cargo trailers for huuuuge cargo space and e power!

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strong work! I fear mine handy work is not so handy! thanks for the advice

very nice. I'd probably look for a waterproof cover for the box too so that may have to be custom. is that box from some of the plans shared in this thread?

also if I can ask what group you are using? XT, Alfine?

security wise currently as many hefty locks as I can afford! also power/cordless tools to be brought inside at night whilst others stay in the bike. has anyone managed to get motorbike alarms to work?

yeah this was my thinking re straps and hooks on the side. was also thinking about the sort of box you have and perhaps cutting slots in the front so main body/engine of tools can sit in the box whilst the long arms of strimmer, long hedge cutter etc could be protruding through the front above/to the side of the front wheel.

not planning on carting a mower about and trying to negotiate jobs where I don't need one/job has their own mower. also planning on going battery powered when replacing current petrol tools, so less need for petrol and 2 stroke.

@Lolo @Settle @Vbulman @Jonny69 @lmananimal cheers for the gearing insights.

There's a Deore 10spd 11-36 on crc at a decent price so I think that'd work. If I stick with 36 up front it gives me a 1:1 gearing which is plenty low enough I think. If I need a lower gear I can always drop a couple teeth on the front.

The box is not from plans shared. It's called the Holde Box from Splendid Cycles. It's not cheap but it was worth it to me at the time. You could make one.

https://www.splendidcycles.com/holde-assembly

I use the e6100 system from Shimano with a DI2 XT Drivetrain.

You could also easily make some kind of a cover out of something. I would try and find something stretchy.

Anyone know what this is? I want one

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specifically? might be able to find it on here?
https://tradesmansbike.wordpress.com/

So I’ve been in touch with both SBC and London Green cycles for initial talk about an ebullitt. Has anyone got other recommendations of bullitt dealers able to supply in/to London? Cheers

Seabass cycles?

Oh yeah, good shout. Ta!

Paradise cycles is a good bike shop

SBC! Best bike shop in London.