What camera do I buy? / general gear talk

https://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/cameras/digital_camera/powershot/powershot_d30/

Not likely to be very good image quality, but might survive your back sweat.

G7x or Sony RX100 will be good, though a step below micro 43 or APS-c.
What is your tolerance for size and weight?

Not a bad shout. Doesn't sound like it's super waterproof but I wouldn't be submerging it. No idea how its image quality would stack up against the G7X but then I've been using a phone for fscking ages now so either would probably be an improvement.

I'd want it to be smaller than my G3 was. Missus has an old Ixus that's a decent size. Small size is why the Ricoh interested me.

Olympus TG-6: https://www.treelinereview.com/gearreviews/best-rugged-cameras

"Not so good for Those who desire smartphone (or better) image quality"

I have an old sony waterproof camera that comes on holidays as a snorkeling camera, and a go pro thats useful for diving.

The non extending small profile lens that is required for the form factor of a pocket waterproof camera, + the sensor size means it probably won't be much better than your phone. The newer generations might be much better than my previous experience though, and the Canon D30 seems to have kept the megapixels down, which is a normally a good sign in a camera like this.

The Ricoh GR III looks like a great camera, and I'd probably get one, if I didn't have a Panasonic GM1 with 28mm equivalent lens already.

You can’t beat Ixus for pocketability. Even in a water-resistant pouch they’ll beat most for size vs bulk. Powershots start to get bulky.

All the same I’d sooner grab an older Sony Nex with pancake lens and do the neck strap tight enough to reduce swinging about (or put in jersey/hip bag).

that is the issue; the rugged cameras are stuck in the middleground where consumers just opt for better phones and tbh phones do much better job than most of them

olympus is also about to close shop

GoPro?

(not a recommendation as I don’t own one but every time I think about a dedicated cycling camera I end up there - is that silly?)

this is actually a good suggestion

Drone?

Google Earth

#selfiefromspace
#hippyisfat

What phone do you have? Though it's true most newer ones will outperform P&S shot for shot, the ergonomics of trying to take pics while on a bike would push me in the direction of a small camera. I think the older Sony A6000 with it's very small kit lens or the TG-6 would be what I would use. The Olympus also allows you to get in really close if you want to document that torn fingernail. I have the Sony (with the 28mm f2). The smaller sensor and fewer megapixels of the TG-6 would seem to make it a more forgiving camera to use on the bike. I've owned a few Ricohs and have loved the saved shots from them but there have been lots of throwaways due to their struggles with low light and focusing speed - maybe not the best option for shooting while moving. I thought the dusty lens issue was largely resolved with the latest iteration.

As of late, I’ve been bringing along my X100V on rides @hippy. The camera is weatherproof and if I reckon the weathers going to be foul I put it in a Peak Design pouch which ought to be weatherproof as well. Together with the strap and stabilizer it works a charm. It’s a fixed 23mm 2.0 which is great for the landscapes I normally tend to capture when out on the road. Outside the cycling use itself, it’s an amazing camera imo.

Sony Nex with pancake lens

Had to google.

Ixus are a lot cheaper than G whatevers.

I have a rugged phone so, much like rugged cameras it seems, it doesn't do great pics. Hence wanting something a bit better without having to lug my DSLR around somehow (though maybe I should just stick the 50mm lens on that and jam it in a feed bag or something?

The new version of my phone unfortunately gets a bigger screen which makes it less appealing but it has

25 MP, f/1.7, 26mm (wide), PDAF 8 MP, f/2.2, 123˚ (ultrawide), 1/4.0", 1.12µm
compared to my:
16 MP, f/1.7, PDAF

We were watching some drone shots of stuff we've ridden thinking "fuck they make any ride look way sexier than phone photos" but then I'm not a fucking Instagrammer or looking to up my socials or whatever. I just want to take photos that look more like what I see when I'm outside, riding around.

I’d sooner just carry an Ixus if bulk is an issue. Being a Canon rep from 2007-2012ish I never rated the Powershot range except the top paparazzi level ones (G range). Always lusted after a G7/8/9.

The dirt-cheap Sony Nex 3N bought on-here a while ago has been more than okay. I don’t notice the weight. If you want a do-it-all then the A6000 with collapsing zoom lens (16-50??) is only fractionally larger. I prefer primes for all the reasons.

Daft thing is a Nex 5 or 3 plus lens isn’t far off the cost of an Ixus.

Scientists think the Earth is orbiting the sun and that's why half of it is dark. Nope, that's just my shadow when I'm awake.

XCover 4S

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10001&idPhone2=9730&idPhone3=9937

Hence wanting something a big better without having to lug my DSLR around somehow (though maybe I should just stick the 50mm lens on that and jam it in a feed bag or something?

Buy the 40mm EF pancake and be done with it?

(Pic was misleading)

That's another factor. Rolling shots are a pain in the arse with my phone, having to unlock it etc. while trying not to die. I mean, I'm pretty good but a camera would be loads easier/quicker.

X100V

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x100v-review

Pretty glowing review, but £1200? My photos aren't that important or I wouldn't have been happy with a phone only for the last 5 years :)

Yep, simple is especially good on a bike. I stand by my recommendations.

Its not cheap per se no. Guess it only makes sense if you see a use beyond the bike rides itself.

This thing? Never seen them before.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-ef-40mm-f2-8-stm

I have a plastic 50mm f1.8 already but that pancake thing would reduce the overall size somewhat. Still not sure I wanna cart around a 5D on the bike though.

Is there a newer equivalent of the Sony A6000?