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  • labelling it as 'grassing up' is a bit too far

    Oh I agree there, definitely. And I had forgotten that Ellwood pissed off the management with the Defence Committee gig. Puts even more context in there and it could very easily all be crony-orchestrated briefing against.

  • Fact check. Grayling was Johnson's preferred chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee but lost to Julian Lewis.

    Ellwood chairs the Defence Select Committee.

  • It's not from 2015 at least.

  • Johnson and Patel's response is more likely related to this.


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  • Fair enough. There had to be something behind it.

  • I had a look earlier, as it was jaring that it was the first time they've not rallied round immediately. So as you say had to be more to it.

  • Perhaps ‘telling tales’ might feel more palatable..?

    I appreciate she did not ‘spill the beans’, but the relish with which she publicly shamed her colleague feels, to me at least, akin to grassing someone up. I feel to label this turn of phrase ‘dangerous territory’ is perhaps rather dramatic.

    I was also alluding to the revelations a while ago about her being an advocate of calling the police on neighbours for possible misdemeanours during lockdown.

    I think she seems to be a very spiteful, mean-spirited and unpleasant individual.

    Let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone, sorta thing.

  • I think she seems to be a very spiteful, mean-spirited and unpleasant individual.

    The word you are looking for is 'Tory'.

  • Perhaps 'dangerous territory' came across as a bit dramatic, maybe 'slippery slope' was more accurate. But you see where I'm coming from right? You get into these situations where discussions just become shit-flinging contests between two sides. With each side firing off any attack they can at the other side while not accepting any fault of those on their side.

    On the face of it, you've got people criticising Boris' stance doing nothing about Cummings ignoring the rules while criticising Patel's stance calling out her 'colleague' for ignoring the rules.

    Like I said, I get that there is more context to the situation than at first glance. But just wanted to highlight the reason for my response.

  • I don't know how to take the first three paragraphs and headline of this article. Is it a beat-up?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55368922

  • The BBC articles on Sizewell C are just as bad. Its like they have made a deliberate decision not to acknowledge that most of the opposition is down to the environmental impact of building a nuclear reactor on pristine wetlands abutting one of the country's most important bird reserves.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55299511

    The only mention of reasons for opposition in this article is "But it has proved controversial with campaigners saying it is "ridiculously expensive" and that taxpayers will have to foot the bill for extra costs."

  • Yet people keep voting for them. Why is that? Clever marketing, promises upon election. A lot of torys seem to be absolute scumbags

    With their oxbridge educations there seems to be a huge amount of stupidity. Raab doesn’t know how to take a knee, Boris can’t seem to keep it in his trousers and Matt Hancock well what do you say about Matt Hancock that hasn’t already been said.

  • oxbridge educations there seems to be a huge amount of stupidity

    You really don’t have to be intelligent to go to Oxford or Cambridge.

  • That article makes me rage.
    There's no point the government having a 2050 zero carbon target if it has no impact on what we do. If the government were actually following their own target there would be no need for people to use legislation to "force them to comply". What a fucking joke. Awful emphasis in that piece.

  • You really don’t have to be intelligent to go to Oxford or Cambridge.

    Any eejit can say this.

  • Most torys seem to be cut from the same cloth is what I’m saying private school, top university or they have a big business and buy there way in.

    None of them seem to have any grasp of real people living everyday lives and challenges they face, because they’ve never had to face them.

  • Cheers, son's crying

    https://youtu.be/rU29_RST49c

  • Even in these times, some traditions continue:

    The Scrooge guy called us all mutants, said Santa has crashed his sleigh and the presents are in the mud, and there was a man in chains by a tree just staring at the car.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-55376683

  • Just came here to post that. Reckon it's the same dickheads falling for it every year?

  • ‘India and Pakistan ban arrivals from the UK, about 3 centuries too late’.

  • Citation needed?

  • Last night's channel 4 news report on the Vietnamese immigrants who died in the back of a lorry last year is really harrowing and sad
    https://www.channel4.com/news/essex-lorry-deaths-the-story-of-one-vietnamese-woman-who-died

    It has video footage of the lorry you might find disturbing. I did.

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