• A very English (if in an opposite) way to think of nationalism. I'm not one for unnecessary jingoistic patriotism either but your view is very much shaped by the place you live, and is a hangover from our wonderful English exceptionalism, you have that point of view because you're looking at it from the point of the "victor" of modern history and colonialism, but you focus on the bad stuff that happened or happens as a polar opposite to a to a "two world wars and one world cup" kind of nationalist. I'm with you on all that but ignoring the fact that for many people on a different end of history being proud of where they're from after another country (probably us) colonised and exploited it and diminished it's culture smacks of the very colonial arrogance you seem to dislike. The Welsh saving they're almost extinct at one point language and bring proud of that is good, other countries getting rid of old Liz as head of state dispite it causing internal issues can be a legitimate source of pride in a nation wanting to not be subject to another from across the world. I have no real problem with the SNP because they're a very different thing from the BNP or their ilk, coming from a position of relative lack of power and seeking to govern themselves in line with how most of the people there think, rather than how those in Westminster do. There's an awful lot of grey areas you're choosing to ignore. Nationalism can be shit and is ripe for abuse but it's certainly not black and white all bad.

  • Modern SNP at least seem to be quite liberal and progressive. I won't defend that sympathiser but there were British politicians from all parties who were supportive of Hitler at that time, all wrong obviously but not a reason to solely disagree with just one party 90 years later.

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