Owning your own home

btw my favourite paint colour is Craig & Rose French Turquoise in chalky matt

What does the modern kitchen in a Victorian property do for splashback wall tiling these days? I fear that white metro tiles will look too "basic" but the flat will likely end up as a rental when we sell it so neutral average decor is likely the way to go.

Again, they're not called that though, are they? Whatever I call them, they'll still be widely known as "plantation", explicitly named after the exact type of plantation that was just described above. For that reason, I'm out. I've not said to boycott shutter suppliers, I've not told anyone here they shouldn't have them.

I still find it amusing how much store people put in a name. If underpants became known as Fascist Pants, would you stop wearing them? After all, members of various Fascist parties wore underpants, I'm sure. I can't imagine they all went commando. There's a definite historical connection there.

I'm not suggesting that lighting a burning cross in your front garden every evening and repainting the house with a Confederate flag is a particularly acceptable concept. But for anyone to find fitting slatted wooden shutters a political statement seems laughably superficial.

I'm really not having a go at you personally. I genuinely find it difficult to see how fitting wooden slatted shutters can be seen as an ethically difficult or questionable decision, and I'm intrigued, if slightly bewildered, to see how anyone could. Not that I've got any. Net curtains for the win.

Enlighten me. Given that wooden slatted shutters have been used well before American plantation owners fitted them, much in the same way as other functional things like roofs, doors and windows have been fitted by all and sundry, what makes wooden slatted shutters so distinctly objectionable? As opposed to roofs, doors and windows? Something of substance, or just the name?

LFGSS Homeownersexual thread in eats itself shocker...

I was recently looking for a daybed for our veranda, LeGoog told me it was a plantation style daybed I should be seeking out... I did find some examples that were exactly the same as the plantation style but were less than half the price... I guess you pays your money and you makes your choice, eh?

We didn't get one in the end, too bourgeois and didn't go with the kitchen tiles...
*pukes on etc, etc*

Love it too. In our kitchen:

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Any of these patterns will be readily available to get a replacement sealed unit as opposed to replacing the whole window.
https://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/householders/decorative-glazing.

to find fitting slatted wooden shutters a political statement

Where did I say that? Just like if I said I was going to look to buy more products from Black owned businesses or promote/share work from Black creators; that is not saying that people doing the opposite is a political statement. You have come to that conclusion yourself.

I've said I don't feel comfortable with the concept that a specific design aesthetic that directly references by name, slave owners houses from fairly recent history is something to aspire to. Again, it's also more the fact that they seem to be the go to for scene points than that they exist at all. Everyone else has been bending over backwards to either explicitly, sarcastically or almost angrily say I am wrong. I've heard a lot of reasons why I should either not refer to them as plantation shutters or why I should keep calling them that and get over it. I reckon everyone else should ask themselves why they care so much.

Why is everyone else so obsessed or confused about why I don't like it? I've not trolled anyone or called anyone out for their choices.

Also, I don't like the look of plantation shutters.

I don't know man. You find it 'amusing' and so you continue to take the piss out of something someone has said is a personal choice for them. It comes across a bit low, you know?

Names matter, that much shouldn't be so difficult to 'understand'. If I really wanted those shutters, sure I'd probably get them and insist on calling them louvred shutters instead. But the fact that people call them plantation shutters does make a fucking difference to me, however amusing you may find that.

And what I find much more wtf than me or stevo_com's aversion to the name (and by association the thing) is the fact that we as a society seem to have just accepted the name as being ok - that's a pretty decent thing, right? We could have called them something else in their recent popularity trend, but no - apparently "plantation style" is just fine. To me that's just a little bit messed up. I'd say it's unlikely pants will suddenly change their name to something unacceptable but fuck it if they did through some perversion of fashion, yes I probably would deliberately seek out the sellers who didn't call them that. Hilarious as you may find that.

Some of my fairly recent family would have had slatted shutters on a non-slave associated actual plantation (as a generic name for productive woodland - this one being rubber trees) in an appropriate climate, and in that context I have no problem with the things themselves, but the name and the context that they're currently used in the UK - for me personally is a problem.

Can we just admit they are a stepping stone to gold pineapples and move on?

My Grandad was a farm manager for a posho called Lt.-Col. P. V. W. Gell, so my Dad grew up on a farm on a big estate in Derbyshire in the 1940s/50s (Hopton Hall, now broken up as a lot of the land was used to build Carsington Reservoir).

Among his many stories was that when picking strawberries they had to whistle continuously to prove they weren't eating them. When I was a kid I didn't think that sounded too bad, now if I think about being forced to whistle for hours on end it doesn't sound like much fun.

It's nothing like slavery of course, but the power inbalance and meanness gets my goat a bit now. My Granny worked as a cook in the kitchens and their lives at that point were pretty much serfdom. Not being able to spare a few strawberries for some kids growing up in the (rationed) 50s seems incredibly tight and petty now.

Anyone want to buy my shutters?

Plantain shutters are shit.

Aesop has become a massive cliche.

You can't even buy Barbican sinks any more.

The only acceptable colour to paint the inside of a house is pure brilliant white.

Given London's moderate climate there is no need to shou sugi ban exterior wood cladding.

Plantain shutters

Fruity.

Those YPPERLIG floor lamps look like the LED street lamps Hackney just put down my road.

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The trad square tiles people used before metro tiles.

Trade white or GTFO.

Trade flat matt

In our kitchen

It looks nice. How many gas rings does the sofa have?

Not enough.

Which came first the chairs or the paint?