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surly do quite a nice one if it will fit with your seat tube clamp
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m7b0s101p3264/SURLY-Rear-Cable-Hanger
You do indeed. Older frame would have a braze on for the hanger . But look for something that is integrated with swat clamp.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tektro-Seat-Clamp-Cable-Hanger-30mm/254784961526?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=254784961526&targetid=1001756968291&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9045901&campaignid=10199635171&mkgroupid=107296318292&rlsatarget=aud-381667280803:pla-1001756968291&abcId=1145987&merchantid=6995734&gclid=CjwKCAiA_Kz-BRAJEiwAhJNY71UbaM59CVUvmWJik69OlzARsd57fNjrVdTOaJVme9B9O4MenHgFnxoCT4QQAvD_BwE&pageci=05e0056f-67b2-4904-998a-6e451bdd9cfd