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  • I get that, isn’t this a problem with classic geo bicycle in general?

    Like in the past, people often go a size or two bigger to have the handlebar high enough.

  • It looks more like surly geo where rather than square CTC it’s longer than it is tall. Hard to be sure without seeing a geo chart. Obviously this worked OK with quill stems and suits people that either run super slammed or a massive Scoble stack, it also comes back to the question of “ UK gravel” if this bike destined for the leafy tow path /New Forest fireroad end of the gravy spectrum then doesn’t matter so much, but the market is already saturated with bikes that’ll do that. If destined for actual off riding, doesn’t really make much sense.

    Going slightly taller in ST/HT could have given same aesthetic but less ridiculous post and spacers.

    Don’t give me “but stand over” pls

  • I read somewhere that the reason it has the small headtube is that it's lugged and the available lugs are limited.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CGmmYD-lZpb/

    I don't really care about lugs, but if you like them then I guess it's just the price you pay.

  • Still a prototype too. Think this is just the L HT on an XL frame. Something to do with availability of lugs and probably not wanting to spend a fortune on the 4-5 test frames.

    Sounds like full geometry and such will be up in the next week or so. Find out if longer headtubes made the cut.

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