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  • This is Trump's isn't it?

    More than likely, yes.

    Georgia and North Carolina are the closest two left and therefore they'll determine the winner.

    That Grauniad link currently has it Biden 238 - 213 Trump with Biden taking Maine and Arizona.

    If Biden does take Nevada and Wisconsin that's only another 16 electoral college votes giving him 254 (he needs 270).

    That means he'd need Georgia (16) which is slipping away, 2% behind with 94% counted.
    NC is only 15. Biden is 1.4% behind with 94% counted.
    In PA (20) there's very little chance. 12% behind but only 64% counted.
    MI is 16 but he's 5% behind with 81% counted.

  • Yes - that was how I read it as well - he doesn't seem to have the numbers. It seems to conflict somewhat with the Graun's tone that Biden is doing ok (I guess their approach is predictable / understandable mind you).

    I don't know what I'm looking at though, so hopefully I'm wrong.

  • Considering we've spent weeks talking about mail-in ballots affecting the state swings dramatically, it seems everyone has forgotten this on election day.

    There's a reason Trump wants counting to stop; we're expecting a heavy Democrat vote in those uncounted ballots; some in the region of 10:1 in favour of Biden.

    I think it will be incredibly close but I think Biden might sneak it.

    Horrible that Trump has increased his actual vote count over 2016 though. America is truly fucked.

  • Go back to VA bring called for Biden on a 32% count when he was 20% down. Their models were right, based on the areas and types of vote which had been counted.

    Admittedly, my views are clouded by alcohol, sleep deprivation and desperation.

  • Seems reasonably possible Biden will take Michigan which would give him enough. Toight though.

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