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• #1002
Not sure will check it was a lbc Facebook thread. Basically all the comments were by white people saying the word negro isn't Offensive
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• #1003
yeah well, if anyone's an expert on racism, it's the white people that listen to lbc.
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• #1004
the BFI and British TV is disgustingly under represented in comparison to the US
I don't cast any doubt on lack of and mis-representation in British film and TV, but what is your comparison with the US? I'm not very familiar with TV in either country, but I guess I'm curious in a wider sense, when we talk about representation how much it relates to statistics, how much to do with narrative, and how much to do with building a better society.
Like you might say, as an absolute minimum, that the quantitative representation of BAME people in UK film+TV should reflect the general population (which is a significantly higher proportion in US). But it also needs to give us characters that aren't just stereotyped and aren't token. And if it means part of creating better social cohesion, shouldn't the quantitative representation exceed the population stats? Like is equality 'fairness' or is it about what you are trying to achieve. Obvs answer that it includes both, not trying to pitch an either/or here, just unpicking a little.
I'm also thinking in the US there are narratives of indigenous people that are so fundamental to the identity of the country, that everyone starting from childhood, needs to hear them more. We don't really have an equivalent in the UK, but colonialism and imperialism are probably the closest. 'Stories of people' is such an important aspect, not just taught as 'history'.
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• #1005
but what is your comparison with the US?
As you say for representation to be effective characters shouldn't be stereotyped and should break traditional moulds. AFAIK there are many more opportunities for black actors in the US and subsequently a wider variety of roles. The US isn't a good benchmark it's just a lot better than here IMO. I believe black actors from the UK know this which is why so many head for the states. The series "They Gotta Have Us" touches on this and is well worth a watch.
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• #1006
They're more opportunities for black actors in the US than the UK. Like most entertainment industries. The US is at epicentre so it would make sense for them to gravitate towards Hollywood. White actors do the same.,what the problem and will always be is that the people of colour aren't represented in TV and film as much as they should be plain and simple.
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• #1007
In the year of our Lord 2020 ,white people have taken it upon themselves to discuss whether the term negro isn't offensive to black people.I'm just tired of having to explain my lived experience.
Its like men talking about childbirth. Racism in the UK is insidious. It was rolled out in Ireland over millennia ago. This blueprint was then rolled out to all 4 corners of the world. So here we are having to justify our existence in a power dynamic that still put us at the bottom of the shitpile of every area of human relationships:housing,employment, education, entertainment and politics.
I'm just mentally tired of the status quo and have no patience for trying to reason with the unreasonable.
#racismintheuk #moderndayeascism #insidiousracism #covertracism #doubleconsciousness #intersectionality
#whyimnolongertalkingtowhitepeopleaboutrace
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• #1008
It’s not difficult to think of several choice words to describe Tim Hutton, shown above demonstrating his insecure and fragile nature.
Copied from the F1 thread, an article wondering why Formula 1 and Red Bull Racing give their driver Max Verstappen a free pass at repeatedly using racist language.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/153109/why-do-verstappen-offensive-comments-get-a-free-passThis video came up on my gf’s YouTube, never heard of the channel but some interesting talking points (eg racial fetichism) “The Truth Flirts-EPS cross culture crush” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hAN9S0rT6AM
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• #1009
Not exactly BLM but sure as hell is racist:
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• #1010
is it real?
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• #1012
Nick Ferrari in right wing racist bullshit shocker.
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• #1013
I amused myself by counting the number of white and POC people in pictures and illustrations in the latest issue of a journal I read regularly (it's a Swedish one, no use posting it here). Not counting the ads I found 69 white and 1 black person. Among the ads I found 21 whites only, no POC, including an ad about an equal rights webinar...
I've written to the editor about this, I strongly suspect they have never thought about it.
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• #1014
At work a colleague overheard me saying trump is a racist, they objected and stated he wasn't/isn't and the best president in the history of America. Said we are going to have to agree to disagree.
I tried to explain it to another colleague who said 'Biden is not much better, whenever he speaks in public he stutters' to him it seems Public Speaking>Racism
Bit worried that the racist has a chance of winning the election.... again.
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• #1015
Nice one, oh the irony of the equal rights ad, my employer sends round a newsletter from a diversity an inclusion team, 21 people... 1 POC because nothing says diversity more than a big group of white people.
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• #1016
You are wrong, Trump is not just a racist he is a white supremacist, a liar, defrauded a charity, misogyonistic, possible rapist.
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• #1017
Them.... Especially when the person has a Poppy remembrance.
Person should be made to walk through the graveyards from the world wars and see the names and religions of the people who gave their lives to defeat facism.
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• #1018
In what sense? We don't have religious extremism on the forum.
Also not really anything to do with BLM.
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• #1019
I would think the news thread is the place to start.
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• #1020
Obivous trolling, user has just signed up. Not worth engaging.
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• #1021
The In the News thread is most likely place if there is any conversation around them
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• #1022
The mainstream media never have to .
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• #1023
100 %
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• #1024
here we go.
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• #1025
Lesson should be not to take the bait.
This thread turned a bit horrible during the last episode
I'm a fan and think it's fairly representational of a small town in the fifties however there's controversy surrounding the Chuck Berry story (is it an homage or did CB steal rock and roll from a white teenager...) and "the Libyans" is classic (in a bad way) 80's Hollywood.