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paininthe in reply to @Greenbank

Test and trace is only ever as good as the information obtained from the people contacted.

There are also numerous stories (who knows of the truth behind them) of how bad they are even when given the information.

Someone on yacf was mentioning that their local rowing club gave T&T all of the contact details of people (over a number of days) who'd had significant contact with someone at the club who had tested positive and not a single person was contacted by T&T.

Then again there's the story of the family that received 60+ calls from T&T as they followed the script to inform each family member that one of the other family members has tested positive, etc.

So pubs and clubs closing, you think that someone would have checked how many infection spreads there have been in those locations. If it is a rife as we are led to believe you would think that T and T would have a hotline to the pub groups.

It does not seem to be the case though, so where are they getting the evidence from?

Figures for 22,500 venues and at least 268m customer visits suggest just 104 cases have been pursued since summer

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jellybaby in reply to @paininthe

So pubs and clubs closing, you think that someone would have checked how many infection spreads there have been in those locations.

I don't think it is that simple. If you accept that the current infection rate/spread is too high then you have to stop some activities. Individually very few account for a high number so you make a value to society decision.

In an ideal world 100% of people would stay at home but the lights would go off quite quickly so you exempt electricity workers. Next people need to eat etc. The need to socialise is less clear cut.

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paininthe in reply to @jellybaby

I don't think it is that simple. If you accept that the current infection rate/spread is too high then you have to stop some activities. Individually very few account for a high number so you make a value to society decision.

Agreed, but except for that piece of A4 paper a few weeks ago, that was not for public release, there is no evidence based reason for closing pubs. Just, as you say, they have to stop folk mixing and that is the easiest one to do. I'm still of the opinion it is workplace transmission that is really the spreader. Warehouses, markets, food preparation, ... ...

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