Pro-cycling thread

Sorry I meant when they were prepping with Hindley, it wasn’t do you want to know time splits. It was, Do you want to know if you are down?

There seemed a weird sense of inevitability that their plan wasn’t going to work.

That bit around 13 minutes after the Sestriere stage, where he forcefully rejects the drink offered to him and rides off to be alone. Brutal.

... and then, in the distance, he tries to throw his bidon over the fence to the kids, but he just flops it into the air behind him.

I enjoyed @Mickie_Cricket pwn of Vaughters on Twitter.

Interesting documentary -
1 - Jai Hindley comes across really well
2 - That scar on Keldemens' wrist!!
3 - The pre-race briefing and strategy completely lacked passion and drive. No sense of team. I've seen a couple of Ineos coach briefings, they are awesome full of belief and a solid plan. And I can't imagine Matt White's briefings on the Michelton-Scott bus lack passion and belief.
4 - what a lack of team bond. No wonder riders like to ride at Ineos.
5 - Who on earth tells your man in pink they are going to lose. Surely - 'go and have your best TT ever, hold your form, concentrate on a good position and getting all the power out, do all that you can, leave nothing on the road'.
6 - Motivationaly there was nothing there, give the man some help fgs.
7 - I'm sure being a DS for 3 weeks is bloody hard
8 - Tao looked apologetic to have beaten him
9 - You gotta love the Sunweb post race party, those Dutch tunes just getting going

you gotta have a number 10, come on

He was getting too big for his boot cuts. One hype collaboration and all of a sudden he’s cycling’s Hiroshi Fujiwara.

Nah, I live in a house where even numbers and symmetry rule (not allowed to leave the tv volume on an odd number because it's untidy as an example) so this is my one chance to be untidy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2gzPh9KnLo&ab_channel=CyclingTips

10 - Sam Oomen was at the Giro?!

Either that or he’s wondering around Italy in a rather fetching pair of boxer shorts.

Seeing that shot of Tao with the Grenadier car in the background at 5:10 really makes you realise that there wasn't a hope in hell of getting a quick bike change done. You'd have to get crampons on to scale that roof!

Just for show, there's surely enough space at the back to dump a team's worth of bikes and wheels...

The difference in team dynamic between Sunweb and Ineos (or any other team) shown in that clip is incredible. Sunweb looked more like a conference dinner than a team celebrating a stage. Thanks for sharing that clip with Dennis and co, great stuff.

It is strange. Ineos; a highly successful GT team took 'one day at a time' approach with 'whatever we get is a bonus having lost the official leader'. And Sunweb, a team for whom this is one of the highest achievements feels inadequate.

It’s a shame there isn’t similar footage of both teams from the Tour. I’d imagine the dynamics would be reversed as Sunweb had a unexpectedly successful race, whilst Ineos had a stinker by their standards.

some really nice footage of tao and dennis at around 7:45 in the last video andy posted. they obviously have quite a good, close relationship.

I can’t believe Sunweb are set up badly right across the organisation given what they achieved at the TdF and Hirschi’s emergence.

Poor @amey

oh no I am not anti-ineos, I loved that too and I actually liked the Ineos approach, it was refreshing coming from them where as other teams have became Ineos-esque

You shared the video that @cozey was referencing, not me.

oh, my bad, apols - short usernames, both start with a, both have a y, I'm old and slow I have my excuses...

Sunweb identify and develop great riders who then want to get out of there ASAP

Oh, Andy and Amey are like two peas in a pod, it's happened to lots of people. :)