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And that's the "great" that they're trying to get back to.

ah see that is because that is the man doing it, which is of course fine, however if a woman dares to start a new relationship whilst her old one is still ending then that is of course a national outrage which effects both her and her new partner...

a man grabbing women by the pussy uninvited

"it was acceptable in the 50's" - things were different then.

Is there any word if Trump has actually tested negative? I've only seen "given the green light"

Asked by Hannity whether he had had a test since testing positive last week, Trump said: “Well what we’re doing is, probably the test will be tomorrow. The actual test, because there’s no reason to test all the time.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/09/donald-trump-florida-rally-saturday-covid-test

Another standout sentence from that article:

He also referred to abortions as “early term executions”, after reports confirming that treatments he has taken to treat his Covid-19 were developed using cells derived from aborted fetuses – a practice his administration opposes.

I know that politicians are no strangers to truth twisting, but we seem to have entered an age where so much insane stuff has already been said that we've crossed a threshold to the point where anyone can say anything, and before anyone can actually follow up on it, something else even more insane happens.

I don't believe so.

I also don't believe that they've released the date of his last negative test, before last weekend when he went into hospital (and one can probably assume that he's tested daily, so they'd know exactly the point at which he became infected).

The suspicion is that he hasn't been tested daily and only got a test when he got symptoms.

Yeah read that too. They test everyone but him...

Ha - so they waited until his colleagues all got it as an indicator.

Even disregarding the person, that seems wildly reckless with the President (although I suppose he just wouldn't let them test him, so what could they do).

This thread waiting for the 'roids to wear off.

The bit that's important is that Trump embraces it, but this is an easy way for his crew to say stuff like, "look they try and act like they're better than you, but they're not, they're all liars."

I don't buy that they are genuinely going for the 25th. I mean why now? He's only slightly more unhinged than he always has been.

I doubt they're 'genuinely' going for it, either. It's probably just a move in the election campaign to signal loudly and clearly that Trump's not fit to be president. If they only said it, it probably wouldn't attract that much attention (it's been said so many times), but it's newsworthy when combined with the possible procedural move.

And now the local fruitloop anti abortion in all case "pro-lifers" are using this to spread anti covid vaxx lies.

USA right wing evangelism has a LOT to answer for.

OK, so may layman's understanding is as follows:
With Covid-19 it's an excessive immune reaction that kills, not the virus itself. Meaning most patients will have a mild or even symptom free affliction, but for a significant minority their immune system goes haywire after a week or so leading to long term damage and even death.
Which is why they have started experimenting with immuno-suppressants. Dexamethasone is one of these suppresants?
Then if I understand correctly then this suppressant leaves you wide open for other illnesses, a simple razor cut can turn septic for example. So if you do use it you should be in a controlled environment like a hospital. Also, you should be in the latter stages of the illness so that we know that we are only targeting the adverse immune effect, with the viral infection being relatively under control at that point.
So... if I have understood the above correctly then giving it at a too early stage means the virus gets a wide open door to really establish itself in every nook and cranny of your body. Meaning if the immune system goes crazy at a later stage it becomes that much more difficult to deal with the illness?

I can see your logic but i've not seen anything to say that early use of dexamethasone increases later risks...just a few studies that show that early use of dexamethasone isn't effective compared to using it later when it is actually needed.

I think you are right about increasing vulnerability to other things though. Things like a thrush infection can suddenly become life threatening in some circumstances.

It's a deliberate conflation between the very rare late-term abortions (circa 1% and usually only for late-diagnosed fetal abnormalities) which are after 21 weeks, and the phrase late-term pregnancy used to mean 40+ weeks. It's really unhelpful to have the same phrase used in both situations and allows Trump et al to talk about babies being executed even after due date which just does not ever happen.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01824-5

In the trial, it cut deaths by about one-third in patients who were on ventilators because of coronavirus infection.

Those who were receiving oxygen therapy but were not on ventilators also saw improvement: their risk of dying was reduced by 20%. The steroid had no effect on people with less severe cases of COVID-19 — those not receiving oxygen or ventilation.

Things like a thrush infection can suddenly become life threatening in some circumstances.

Things like bone spurs?

Things like bone spurs?

Dexamethasone use with a patient with bone spurs is how stilts were invented.

Pelosi is passing the bill creating the commission to look into replacing Trump using the 25th. Surely the danger is this is purely performative and fires up both his base and any moderates who don't want an 'illegal coup' or whatever else Trump is going to call it

https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1314089207875371008

oh america...

'illegal coup' or whatever else Trump is going to call it

You'd think he would take that view but this:

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Amazing how quickly all the anti-democratic comments have come up.

Perfect time to get into the Christmas wishlists though