Architecture and interior design thread

Yeah as @moog says was likely me. I like it but probably worth seeing one in the flesh Before buying.
Also you’ll want to fit an anti slip mat to the base as otherwise the cushion constantly slides forward - considering this is like £2 I’m not sure why Hay didn’t add one!

Oh wow.

I don't even know where to start here......facepalm.jpeg

What have I missed?

Charging for ones own creativity / design / etc but are happy to "steal" others?

Thanks - I love the look of it, tempted by the sofa too now I realise they exist.

Will definitely find somewhere to try in the flesh given the cushion slippage!

Hmmm... I see your point, but I can’t afford to pay 1200 quid for a single chair, but I could afford maybe 400.

So options are...

(And I was only half serious)

It's a tough one. I'm typing this sitting in an Eames knock-off (though the Italian factory claims they have the license since they used to do the European manufacturing)

Yeah for sure... and if you reallllly wanted to be boring you could start on about how the knock off eames stuff is prob closer to its original intent (mass produced for the masses) than the vitra version, but that would be a yawn a rama.

All my furniture is originally actually, including eames in the garden. #freelancedays

In the UK the design rights for the Eames chair would have expired long ago. Don't know what the situation is in the US though.

Charles Eames’ first success came in designing The Organic Chair (with famed architect Eero Saarinen) for a Museum of Modern Art competition in 1939. That design was geared toward creating affordable furniture for customers seeking livable, modern, familial decor. Initially, this proved a difficult task as Eames’ chair cost $75 in a time when most American families made $10,000 a year. Despite the difficulties, the Eameses were determined to drive down the cost.

After dedicated effort the Eameses were able to minimize production overhead, and developed their plywood molding with military funding and a partnership with Herman Miller. This economical ethos stayed with the Eameses throughout their career as they attempted to create well-designed furniture that was relatively affordable for the average consumer. Charles Eames stated that he had little interest in securing patents on his furniture. When asked about the copying of his famous designs, Eames remarked that the only frauds he worried about were “the bad copies, when your idea is used in a boobie way.” As long as their work wasn’t compromised, profit was not the Eameses primary concern.

‘Boobie Way’ will be the name of my new home furnishings enterprise.

That's such a nice thing to read. Quite far from where the brand is today

if you reallllly wanted to be boring you could start on about how the knock off eames stuff is prob closer to its original intent (mass produced for the masses) than the vitra version

My friend works for Vitra, even she can't tell the difference between the knock off versions and the real deal.

Think the UK is quite unique on this? Most other countries protects designs for far longer

There was a Swedish knockoff design shop that got busted a few years ago. They were registered in the UK but only sold to Scandinavian countries iirc.

I think the new UK copyright law would trump any licensing agreement. Knock offs will need to make obvious changes to existing designs to circumvent the 2016 law change... those changes are likely to compromise the integrity of the design/object.

As far as I can tell design rights in the US last for 20 years. There are various flavours of IP rights. Copyright, for example, wouldn't apply to designs, only the drawings for the designs.

Makes me feel less bad about considering buying a decent Eames copy in due course. Not that I felt that bad about it in the first place.

Can’t find you a repro but I have the table, bench, stool and chair and they’re great - and in the scheme of things not outrageously expensive - i got 15-30% off ours.

dibs

How?! Do you have the lounge chairs? I’m keen on on here of those...

Just sign up to all of the online stores for their standard discounts, subscribe to all the physical store mailing lists and also be willing to call/go in to store and negotiate. The last one will get you the biggest discount but is the hardest. I’d be confident I could get 25-30% off the palisade stuff at most stores.

Haus? Err... Hay?

even she can't tell the difference between the knock off versions and the real deal.

Some of the knock off Eames lounge chairs are completely different sizes though, and can be up to 10" difference in height. Also, there's quite a lot which have a recline feature the original doesn't and quality can be a bit suspect as it's just too expensive to get all the details right sometimes.

I also haven't seen an aluminium group chair copy that didn't have wonky proportions.

Huh?