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• #1402
De Rosa Titanio world be my choice
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• #1403
@t-v I used to work for Stelbel so perhaps I could give you a bit of info. They don't indeed have a history working with ti but the frame builder is highly experienced, who produces steel/ti frames for a few Italian brands.
There's a lifetime guarantee on workmanship and as @Lolo says I'd recommend reaching out to them, they're top fellas and passionate about their brand.
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• #1404
Interesting - thanks. What capacity did you work for them in? Who are the people behind the brand and who are the frame builders?
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• #1405
Man. Every time I go on their site... the Inox is straight 🔥 the panto makes me want one so, so bad. Maybe I should start collecting classic Italian road bikes like @Señor_Bear 🤓
I do understand the concern though. The main reason I posted the builders I did is because of their Ti track record. Seven will do bendy stays. Not quite as bendy as a DeSalvo or SV, but bendy.
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• #1406
I did a mix of customer service, website copy and website maintenance. The brand was revived in 2013 by two guys based in Bergamo and is run to the same manufacturing standards set out by the founder, Stelio Belletti, who is regarded as the pioneer of tig welding.
The frame builder is based in Veneto, with over 40 years experience, producing frames brands such as for De Rosa, Mason & also Cinelli.
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• #1407
Top choice
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• #1410
Is that you Barney?
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• #1411
When I was narrowing my build down I had extensive discussions with Brad about the branding. He was happy to build it as an Eriksen frame if I wanted but intends to phase that out this year and exclusively build under his brand. I'd imagine he'd be flexible on type face / logo though. He came across as a really nice guy and if its welding and craft perfection you want you can't beat him. The only reason I didn't go with him was the import taxes.
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• #1412
They just don't do it for me - don't know why.
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• #1413
The experience and obvious quality of the builds is appealing.
Which other builders did you speak to?
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• #1414
Yes, it is! How's things?!
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• #1415
Spoke seriously with Bingham, Moots, Enigma and Sturdy but also exchanged a few emails with others.
Tom (Sturdy) and Brad (Bingham) were the best on email comms and the most detailed in their replies.
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• #1416
Barney!!!
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• #1417
Joe Walker at Enigma is doing some seriously nice work on the UK-built stuff. The OTP lower end models are made overseas I believe, and are still very good, but some of Joe's work is top notch.
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• #1418
Enigma recently did a brilliant job replacing the chainstays on my Etape.
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• #1419
Did you buy that stinner?
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• #1420
Hey Dov!!!
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• #1421
Barney! Thought it might be you.
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• #1422
And they’re $6900 for a frameset L O L
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• #1423
Kelly Bedford was a builder I hadn't looked at before you mentioned yesterday. What research did you do on him? Did you go so far as speaking too him?
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• #1424
No. None of the above.
Did speak to a guy on the PL though. He’ll build a bike as good as a Kirk, but out of any material. Think that’s his main appeal versus a Kirk.
Also just remembered that his frames are welded by Andy Keech, who was head welder at Serotta. But brazing and lugs are Kelly himself.
Message ltwtsculler91 on PL. He was the guy.
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• #1425
That’s excellent news! Pub bike?
They are good, but I don't love the integrated head tubes.