Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

Something like this seems to do the exact same job as the Milkit injector so looks like it's the best option:
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/KOM-Cycling-Tubeless-Injector-Designed/dp/B071FDY4XR/ref=pd_sbs_200_1/262-4234078-4129628?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07DL445R2&pd_rd_r=7c70e8f8-ef64-4558-8c04-217cf4aae9ad&pd_rd_w=IDrpV&pd_rd_wg=64aoc&pf_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078&pf_rd_r=Z9WEN52DCP45RJDC1KJ7&refRID=Z9WEN52DCP45RJDC1KJ7&th=1

I think I need a narrower pipe?

I would think so, and something stiff. External diameter of the one I have seems to be 3.75mm or so.

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Yes looks very similar... It says Next day delivery if you order within 4 hours.

Thanks for checking that. Mine is 6mm and floppy. Ordered that syringe.

Encouraged to see your posts about having a positive experience with these valves. Still seems odd that DT Swiss (who make their own tubeless valves) supply their wheels with Milkit ones!

Mine is 6mm and floppy

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Has anyone gone back to tubes from riding primarily tubeless? If so, regretted it? Not been an issue? Not missed it?

I ask because I've been tubeless for three years and it has been great. But that was a bike with 30c tyres, so it made a lot of sense. I'm after some 25/28c gumwall's for an incoming bike and there don't really seem to be any PROPER gumwall's in tubeless (Schwalbe One TLE are not gumwall - they're almost brown).

The wheels I'll be using on the new bike are tubeless and I'm using them tubeless with black 25c Schwalbe Pro One's currently.

I've got some nice gumwall challenge paris roubaix setup with tubes on one set of wheels that used to have Pro Ones, they ride as nice if not even nicer. Just bog standard tubes too, so I bet ultralight or latex would be even nicer.

Only downside is the rear gumwall got ruined pretty fast from brake dust / road muck.

What about the new Veloflex tubeless tyres?

https://www.veloflex.it/en/tubeless-ready-corsa-race-tlr-gum-sidewall

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes thank you! Had not seen those.

I've been eyeing them up for my Ti Bike as well!

Ohh, they have a more training orientated tyre too. Probably better for every day riding and they come in a 28. This could be the one.

Non tubeless version is very cheap right now though: https://www.bike24.com/p2356896.html

Non tubeless version is very cheap right now

That's a normal level of discount for tyres, and it's the pre-2020 range not the new ones, although in tubed tyres that seems to be no more than a change of tread pattern and compound.

Of course, the old Master with the file/herringbone would actually be a bonus if you're building a retro bike 🙂

I did exactly that. I had a cut in my front tyre (Hutchinson 700x28) which would not seal, so instead of getting another tubeless tyre i went with Veloflex Master,as they were on sale on bike24. The Veloflex tyres feel much nicer, are lighter and more grippy, though that is more tyre specific than related to tubeless or not. Only downside so far is air loss, as I went with latex tubes.

My pair of the training-orientated version (Corsa Evo TLR's) arrived today: ordered on Wednesday, dispatched yesterday from Bergamo. Which is pretty impressive.

They look, smell and feel great and were easy to fit to my DT Swiss PR 1400's.

They're just sitting on the wheels with tubes in to get them the right shape before I do anything else.

Hmmm. Reassuring stuff. Let me know what you think of them when you get a chance, Pete? Just read through the Weight Weenies thread on them and feedback is all about how fast they are. I'm more concerned with ride quality tbh.

I'm more concerned with ride quality tbh.

The thing which Veloflex has always done is provide great ride and handling thanks to the high thread count poly-cotton carcase.

Also very keen to hear how these are. Got a set of the Schwalbe ones from here and haven’t fitted them yet as I’m not sure they look as gumwall as I was hoping for

I'm back to tubes in the road bike. What I had before was on 30c tubeless and worked. Tried 23c tubeless and it's really hit and miss. It may seal punctures but can't hold much pressure, to the point that the only option is nurse the half flat tire home or getting to the closest train station. I'd rather chuck in a new latex tube knowing that's gonna work and keep riding.
Tubeless is great in my gravel boat, in a race bike not so much.

Funny you say that. I saw a guy fixing a flat today on my ride and it just made me think... nope. Sticking with tubeless no matter what. I haven’t had to use an inner tube in three years and it would be a shame to start now. I’ve had one tubeless woe in that time where a tyre wouldn’t seat. But that was fixed by adding an extra layer of tape.

(Corsa Evo TLR's) arrived today

I haven't ridden these yet but I did set them up over the weekend.

Deflated the inner tubes and removed the tyre from the rim on one side, then took out the tubes. Wet the rim with a bit of water with washing up liquid, got them up to 80psi no problem with a normal track pump - very easy. Used the injector to inject 30ml of Orange Seal once they'd gone down again, swished it around then pumped them back up to 100psi.

Rear tyre stayed up first time no problems, but the front went flat. So I put another 10ml of sealant in and pumped it up again.

Checked this morning and it has gone flat again :/

What should I do next? I've never had a problem getting tubeless tyres to hold air once I've first got them going before. At no point have these leaked any sealant or anything like that, so I don't really get where the air is going, or why the rear is fine but the front not...

Pump it up again and take it for a ride. It's the best way of distributing the sealant in my experience. If it still doesn't stay up then I'd start feeling suspicious about the tape and/or valve seating.

Spray with soapy water to identify where the leak is. This could inform you if it is a rim tape issue, poorly seated valve or porous tyre.

But you’d have known this if you had read the first fucking post.

Take it for a ride, like you stole it.

I thought the fit with inner tube method had been debunked ages ago

Works well if something won't seat.