Lightweight tent recommendations?

I bought a copper spur UL2 and it is real fantastic.
I am a bit worried by how thing the floor material is so might make/get a cheap footprint - but it gets lots of comments on this and minimal actual reviews saying theyve every actually ripped it..

dupe

Footprints are a waste of time.
Who cares if you get a tiny rip on the floor if you abuse it. If you do 1cm of gorilla tape will fix it forever.

I'm a fan of a cheap extra groundsheet. Means you can set up your tent on top in the same condition each time and it mostly stays clean and dry. Special, expensive footprints not worth it, but groundsheet layer can come in handy as place to lie, extra shelter etc. Depending on conditions you pitch on.

just bought myself the lanshan. thanks @platypus

I don’t get this at all.
Staying dry, well if you’re camping on wet ground and it’s not raining then you have clearly picked a bad spot. If it is raining the whole tent will be wet, what’s the point.
Protecting the base, what are you camping on? A bed of nails? Even my cuben bottom tent which I did 100 nights in never got close to having the bottom injured.
Want something to lie on, just lie on the whole tent flat.
Maybe this comes across as agro but I’ve never seen any good reason for a groundsheet.

I like to pack and keep the tent as clean and protected as possible. The groundsheet keeps any mud or sludge separate from a screwed up packed tent. I've camped on a ton of different surfaces and prefer not to expose the floor directly to the ground if a cheap sheet can help. Lying on the tent flat would mean I have toggles and zips in the way. The groundsheet also means you can go through packing up the tent / emptying repacking panniers etc. and not do it on the bare ground, but on a surface. For me that helps keep the inner better too and less pegs etc. lost. It also folds out big and can supplement as another tarp /bike cover / all sorts if needed.
It's not aggro, we all have different ways. To me the usefulness of something so light and cheap makes it worth adding on a long trip if you are camping in unknown situations.

Bought a tarp and mat from aliexpress, a groundsheet and poles/pegs from Bearbones. Just need to sort the sleeping bag and i should be okay

Two years after buying it, I actually slept in that ‘Mountain Life Backpacker 2’ tent. I think I slept a night in it a year or so ago but can’t remember.

Half tempted to look at slightly taller tents, as much as the 2kg weight and quality is there, the ability to scooch around inside is not.

Also, forgot how chilly it gets at 5am

After two nights in the garden in the backpacker tent, I’ve decided I’m too long for it.

By the looks of pack weight and price, the Lanshan has practically zero competitors, right? I’ve re-read all the previous pages and Platypus’ comments, just struggling to find any other sub-1.5kg tent with as much room.

Was thinking about the larger 2-person, as its claimed weight is only a few grams more right? But I’d need two poles? Must research moar.

How tall are you? Because the lanshan 1 and 2 arent that long. Naturehike has some freestanding tents that weight as much as the lanshan including poles. You can find them on aliexpress.

6ft when my posture’s good, and I like to point my toes to stretch, so the more I research them the less suitable they become.

Not sure how accessible Go Outdoors is, but I want to try the OEX options. I’ll have the same weight but the Phoxx II is definitely bigger, and the Bobcat might be just about long enough with a tarp. Thinking Bobcat for headroom when sitting, Phoxx II for length laying down.

My Backpacker 2 is just under 850mm height inside so even 900mm will feel like an improvement. 1000mm would be great but most are pushing weight up past 2kg.

Hmm.

Went for the OEX Phoxx II (v2). It felt totally okay inside as far as height sitting up and length laying down. Luxuriously spacious compared to the backpacker. They didn’t have the smaller stuff set up so I couldn’t try it, but I preferred it to the 3kg Berghaus offerings.

couple of platypus approved tents up on ebay rn
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tarptent-Scarp-1-backpacking-tent/164224775374
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Six-Moon-Designs-Lunar-Solo-0-8Kg-Ultralight-One-Person-Tent-SMD/224029071883

http://www.trekkertent.com/home/

Lots of nice tents and tarps here, pricey compared to aliexpress/cheap Chinese offerings but the upside is U.K. made, top quality according to reviews and the option to repair and replace individual parts such as fly when they wear out. I shall be ordering a phreeranger shortly, it’s been the dream tent for a while!

yes, seen these.
honestly not good value.
they're ripped off tarptent's designs, and by extension some of gossamer gear too.
they're more expensive, and probably the little touches like ventilation aren't as good.
the phreeranger, for example, is just a worse, more expensive copy of a bowfin.

The phreeranger is actually a direct copy of the phreeranger tent designed by Phoenix in the 80s. Memory might be a bit off, but I think phoenix was founded by people from ultimate equipment.

Most tents are rehashes of both those designs, along with Saunders tents.

Got my eye on that scarp.

Hope you don't need it soon, I have a drift2. It was perfect for what we wanted when walking the Tour du Mont Blanc; ridiculously light, spacious, easy to put up. But it took months to arrive, much longer than the leadtimes given.

The independent U.K. maker is the big sell for me, would rather not buy something shipped halfway round the world if possible otherwise have always fancied a scarp.
I think marc at trekkertent has been making shelters for about the same amount of time as tarptent but could be wrong

I’m in no hurry! My current tent is a berghaus peak 3.1 that is slowly falling apart but I keep thinking it’s got one more trip in it. Also have a trailstar that occasionally gets used

Go Outdoors have a sale on. Some stuff is marked down lower, and there is an additional 15% off all departments this weekend.

That 2kg Phoxx IIv2 I bought is now £80 -15%.

Swung by today. They refunded me the whopping £50 difference because it was only purchased a few days ago, so I’m well chuffed with that customer support.

refunded me the whopping £50 difference

Nice one. Saves you returning it then re-buying it at the lower price, saves them the hassle.

A tall (2m) friend of mine is looking for a lightweight 1p tent, really doesn't want bivi or tarp, what are his options? Is the @platypus approved Cloudup going to be big enough? We can't make it out from the various (seemingly contradicting) figures.

This seems to be the best option: https://www.tarpshop.nl/nl/product/grand-canyon-richmond-1-capulet-olive/ But it's more hooped bivi than tent, can you abide by it @platypus ?