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Asking whether Boris would "get the majority he so deserves"

Impartiality is not giving an alternate view to something that is fact, the idea that the BBC can't criticise the tory party without being accused of favouring left wing is ridiculous.

I honestly think it's how the tory party have managed to do so well despite being incompetent, they have the advantage of being able to lie. You cant question the lie without spending half the air time having a counter balance argument that the lie, that is a lie and definitely not true, may somehow in an alternate universe not be a lie.

the impartiality argument is specious, dissembling bullshit deployed to stifle criticism of authority.

bleak.

And nothing happened there?

The "Cummings broke the rules" I guess is the interesting bit, cos the government politicians that defend him are all more or less stating "no he didn't!!!"

If they think this helps in any way, dunno, sure it is good propaganda, em sorry did I give an opinion, for their hardline supporters, but anybody already in doubt over the government response may switch over to the "no, you gone too far side" with this.

They'd need a lot more deaths to drag their population adjusted rate up to ours:
https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1265886432989786113/photo/1

The "Cummings broke the rules" I guess is the interesting bit, cos the government politicians that defend him are all more or less stating "no he didn't!!!"

That’s the thing, this is, to my knowledge the first time I’ve seen a government happily backed someone who broke the rules, Where people got fired or resign for less.

Like, an actual Prime Minister defending Cummings as he’s the Prime Minister and Boris just an adviser.

It's about Brexit innit.

If I just landed in the UK with no ideas what’s what and you tell me Cumming is the Prime Minister and Boris is his spokesperson, id believe you.

Press outside the UK pretty much asking the question: "So, who really IS running the UK?"

This whole gaslighting lie fest started/worsened (depending how cynical one already was) with Brexit, and it is not getting any better.

I suppose if you vote for liars, you get more lies.

It's about Brexit innit.

Kind of, but there number of hard line Brexit supports who have come out against Cumming, Steve Baker, Penny Mordaunt to name a couple

Yeh but they don't like him for Brexit not being their version of Brexit, right?

Brexit is the reason he won't quit though

BREAKING: A Durham Police investigation has concluded that Dominic Cummings DID breach lockdown rules when he drove to Barnard Castle, the Telegraph has learned

https://twitter.com/evansma/status/1265969313158254593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1265969313158254593&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2Flive%2F2020%2Fmay%2F28%2Fuk-coronavirus-live-test-and-trace-gets-under-way-in-england-and-scotland

Not only awkward for the government, but the BBC as well. Good.

"an investigation by Durham Police has concluded he did commit a "minor breach" of the guidelines when he drove to Barnard Castle on April 12.

However the force, which according to the most recent data, has issued 137 fines for lockdown breaches, said it would not be taking any further action against Mr Cummings."

Wtf

Well, that's gonna be fun times for the police on Twitter, no doubt people fined for breaches are going to ask them "so when it is minor and when it is a problem? Distance? Number of people in the car? Whether you got your eyes tested within the recommended 2 year period or not?"

Anyone else on here got their copy of The Epoch Times?

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https://twitter.com/HRWright/status/1265369880322281477?s=19

SAGE say don't open all schools yet. Govt to ignore SAGE's advice (again).

https://twitter.com/IndependentSage/status/1265977278317592582

Police covering their asses. Yes it was a breach (public facing), it was only minor (govt facing).
Still, if nothing else it keeps it in the headlines and keeps the pressure on him and Johnson.

Enjoyed that, tx :)

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/12656­58474811318273?s=19

Well, that's all pretty much exactly what Johnson did at Mayoral Questions all the time. Asking him a question is a bit like trying to open a tin of tomatoes with a tomato.

I'm not sure if he'll do the temper tantrums as 'Prime Minister', too, but I suppose there's always another way of escalating things into farce.

is a bit like trying to open a tin of tomatoes with a tomato.

I like that

That's a in interesting read (although I've only skimmed it TBH) but it's from Independent SAGE rather than SAGE.

It would seem like common sense to only open in areas with less current infection though. Something like that will probably happen, although in the absence of proper tracing the decisions will probably be taken more on political grounds.

Something that reduces the risk of opening the schools is that loads of parents won't be sending their kids in. I've got a reception kid and loads of the other parents are not at all keen. We are in London and think that there is only a relatively low level of the virus here right now (we have a friend who works in ICU at local hospital) so are all for it.

We're not exactly sure how it will work (if it even goes ahead on Monday) but are expecting the reception classes of 30 to be split in half doing half-days. With low attendance, it's likely the classes will only have 7-10 kids.

Durham Police say Cummings castle trip was a minor breach. It says there's no issue with him self-isolating at his parents, but makes no mention of the trip from London to Durham.

I wouldn't be surprised if they say the London to Durham journey is outside their jurisdiction, despite fining other people for the journey in April.

Police statement is only regarding the law, not the stay at home guidance, obviously.

Point being made that the Attorney General is now in conflict with the Police

https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1265977744996925440