• True to form, I’m going to disagree with everyone. But then again I lived in Camberwell for a long time and rode lots of MTB from my doorstep, most enjoyably to Epping, round Epping, and back.

    A steel hardtail is the right bike for 90% of riding in England unless you are a professional. I would avoid buying a complete build secondhand as most of the components will be worn out, even if it doesn’t seem so at first glance. I would highly recommend buying the frame secondhand, something by Cotic or Stanton or Genesis or similar, some second hand wheels with Hope hubs, secondhand Shimano 10spd groupset with new 42t cassette and chain obviously, then some new Magura brakes, a dropper, and a fork. All in all for £1k you can build a banging bike that will ride a lot nicer than a needlessly expensive Santa Cruz.

  • This seems like great advice and I'm gonna take it!

    Unless fundamentally crap I'll still go for the Chameleon if it ends for an amazing price just because it's pretty. In the meantime I'll look for steel and second hand wheels.

  • I had a look at the at the chameleon, but I deemed it way too see expensive for what it is, and also it's got a very steep head angle.

  • unless the Chameleon comes in steel, that is not recommended

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