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Do you use Bluetooth headphones with it? If so, do they drop out at all?

Thanks for putting me right on this. It's alarming what one will believe, if it is shared to you by a trusted family member.

The author of the study describes the vice article as follows and includes a link to the (currently not peer reviewed) paper.

Article by
@jason_koebler
showing lack of objectivity & aero knowledge. Only personal attack & loaded with errors: Not all Belgian researchers. White paper WAS online 2 days ago 9 pm CET. Poor attempt to journalism.
Our full paper here: http://urbanphysics.net/COVID19.html. No errors there.

https://twitter.com/realBertBlocken/status/1248726173728808963?s=20

Oops sorry just posted the same vice article - didnt see the next page of comments :)

What sort of distances do people do and start to take food/gels/drinks with them?

drinks

If it's hot and I'm out for over an hour

food/gels

Never. I might stop at a shop if I'm out longer than 2 hours

16 miles and over, unless it is hot

I plan to, but haven’t yet. All the reviews said the connection is pretty stable.

Above 20* I’ll take water for 10km. I have never taken food outside of a marathon.

Most of us run in urban areas. If the situation is bad enough you’re desperate for food there’s plenty shops otherwise you should be fuelled enough for 90% of runs in my opinion.

drinks

Like TW, over 10km if it's hot, I'll take a 500ml hand bottle if I'm going on a HM run but mostly make sure I drink plenty up to an hour before the run

food/gels

Never for anything up to and including HM, have done those on an empty stomach with no problems (I'm not setting any records though 2h to 2h15m was usual time). 28km seems to be where the problems start for me, so I'll take gels on runs of that length or longer, mostly to get used to them in preperation for a marathon

For my last long run before a marathon (35km) I do 3 laps of Richmond Park I'll cycle there, lock up the bike and leave bottles/gels in an old pannier on the bike so I can top up after each lap.

Don't have the patience/discipline to keep a water bladder clean so I've never bothered with them.

Trails - water for all distances, especially after getting super sick drinking from a river last year.
City - never take anything, even when it's 35+ but I might end at a convenience store to get water (or beer) or go to a water fountain if I'm on the riverside.

Something to think about is replacing calories whilst you're running. Not because you'll run out and bonk during the run but because if you are training regularly then you need to be replacing your stores (or not using them in the first place) to allow for tomorrow and the day after's efforts.
I'm pretty bad at this but anything much over an hour I'll try to take more than just water with me. The advice often is start drinking sports drinks after 20mins.

That’s pretty interesting. I never really take water or food with me. I think I’m going to start taking water for hour plus runs or in the heat.

I’d every day argue the general public running don’t need to refeed mid run for tomorrow.

Just run. Be amazed at how your body works if you eat correctly all day rather than jam vile jams in yer mouth for a 10km

Depending on what you're training for, there is the theory of (on occasion) "running on empty", as a way to teach your body to burn a higher proportion of fat. For marathon training I'm usually quite happy doing a pre-brekky 20+ miles in the morning, on a coffee and a pint of water. If it's cool weather I might get round without any drinks, although even in Winter it's useful to know where the water fountains are. Summer training for an Autumn marathon will involve knowing where the water fountains are, plus planning a drink stop at a shop maybe half way round, preferably something sugary and isotonic. Only really take gels when I'm trying something out pre-race, just to make sure it agrees with me.

For most runs up to 15 miles or so I'll just make sure I refuel and hydrate really well after the run.

I don't refuel for the next run as I'm trying to lose weight. Running acts as a good appetite suppressant, I can go out for the run feeling quite hungry and when I'm back I don't feel hungry at all (and not for a good few hours afterwards). I'm aiming to run a 3500kcal/week deficit to give me 0.5kg/week weight loss so I need all the help I can get.

Depending on what you're training for, there is the theory of (on occasion) "running on empty", as a way to teach your body to burn a higher proportion of fat.

It certainly works. When I first got into Audax I'd be ravenous at the first control (50km or so). After a while I'd do my usual DIY ride up to Cambridge and back starting on an empty stomach and having my first food at the half way mark (~110km). After lots of riding I could do the entire thing without resorting to any food (I'd carry some in case I ever got close to bonking). It's useful as the first proper control on PBP is at ~220km although most people stop at a cafe along the way (Cafe des Sports in ??? is a classic) or get something at the optional control at ~140km.

I’ve just finished 80/20.

I really enjoyed it and am going to try and run a lot slower for most of my runs.

Is there any counter science to it? Have people here used it successfully?

I would be pretty similar to this. Apart from a description of

happy doing a pre-brekky 20+ miles in the morning

As a definite non-early riser this would be a struggle 😂

Did an 18km walk yesterday - I know it’s not running but it was a trail route I’d been thinking of doing and as a rest day activity seemed like a good idea. Saw very few people and easy to distance so great but the ground is very rutted and feels like a rolled ankle waiting to happen. What’s the advice for this type of running?

The thing that stops me going straight away in the morning is I need to go to the loo first. I have to have a coffee and something small to eat, and go, before I go. I’ve learned from past experience...

Not exactly sure what you are asking - is an 18km walk good for a rest day? I would say that sounds pretty hefty..

Pfar. @Cycliste's walk yesterday was 35km and 1750m of verts.

I have done a fair amount of Box Hill running in all sorts of conditions, and it just felt sort of natural, if my ankle started to roll I could tell and shift my weight and leap up off the foot.

Hard to explain, but the only times I have rolled an ankle have been running home from the pub in the before running days, and a few weeks back when distracted 100m after leaving my house.

I did 70,000 ft of elevation over Box Hill one year and didn't get injured. Pavements are much more dangerous

I roll my ankle walking on flat path.

So I say go for it and hope for the best.