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• #577
Basically the idea that we should exorcise the best bits of the policy platform from the Corbyn era is fucking stupid
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• #578
Let's not forget what the party was like in the years before 2015
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• #579
Especially when we are now at a juncture where the very fundamentals of the role of the state are rightly being redefined
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• #580
Corbyns epitaph is surely that he failed to beat the worst Tory party for a long time. His incompetence as a leader and refusal to address hugely damaging issues such as the institutional anti semitism in the party and Brexit define him.
He missed countless open goals, stayed unacceptably quiet over Brexit (both in the referendum and afterwards) and pathetically blamed it on the media, as if he had nothing to do with his failures.
Not an ounce of pragmatism in the man.
He was the left's big opportunity in this country and he fucked it. Worst election defeat for 80 odd years and he still thought that 'he won the argument'. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Starmer seems competent, very left wing (despite peoples strange desires to present him as a slick centrist), and although slightly dull will hopefully rebuild the damage Corbyn caused in 2024 so that winning is a realistic possibility in 2029, potentially with a new leader.
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• #581
Ed's Back!
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• #584
Desperate to talk to the 3% who don't know if they did or did not know
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• #586
Suspect the Blair fanbois to be along in short order to blame this on Corbyn somehow.
"Well they wouldn't have felt compelled to do this if he wasn't so unelectable!"
Cunts indeed.
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• #587
Some details of the leaked texts here: https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/its-going-to-be-a-long-night-how-members-of-labours-senior-management-campaigned-to-lose/
Fuck these wankers - more interested in preserving their own power than anything else, to the point of cheerleading for a Tory victory.
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• #588
Such a fucking shitshow, we could be living in a corona free socialist utopia by now if it weren't for these pricks, or at least have been a bit better prepared for what's going on and been without 3 years of shite and quite so much brexit.
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• #589
Madness
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• #590
Not to excuse the obvious fuckery, but what’s the relevance of all this to what was being billed as a report into antisemitism? It seems more like a settling of scores by the outgoing regime.
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• #591
"The investigation also accuses the former General Secretary Lord McNicol, and other senior figures of providing “false and misleading information” to Jeremy Corbyn’s office in relation to the handling of antisemitism complaints, which the report claims meant “the scale of the problem was not appreciated” by the leadership."
Note: 'accuses' , not 'proves'
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• #592
The Whatsapp and email trails there are nothing less than damning
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• #593
I am livid about this
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• #594
But at least, even in a time of international crisis, the one constant is that the Labour party is still publically shitting itself
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• #595
Yes, the release of this was timed to disrupt Starmer's start as leader. Same games being played by both sides.
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• #596
I hope it does and none of these dickheads still have a job anywhere near Labour. That can only be a good thing right?
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• #597
I hope it does
To be honest I don't think it will affect him too much as people have slightly more important things to worry about.
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• #598
I hope it does
Why?
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• #599
The difference is that the people Detailed in the report worked to stop a Labour victory in an election, whereas leaking this report makes the new leadership accountable for cleaning up.
Although I suspect that KS isn’t going to be looking too hard for the people that fucked Corbyn over.
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• #600
Lol, the only reason this report was leaked to the press was because the party made the self-serving decision not to send it to the equalities commission as planned and attempt to suppress it instead. But sure, both sides.
What 'brand of leftism' do you think would have won in 2019 out of interest?