Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

This will be money borrowed already by Trusts from the government. NHS hospitals funding for the next four months is going to be based on whatever we spend. Anything Covid related funded in full from the centre on top of normal business expenses.

Shit we’re at “war” now?

Thank you for that clarification.

Worth reading the (short) thread
https://twitter.com/J_CD_T/status/1245739661449977867

Hancock saying it's fantastic that NHS aren't overwhelmed at this point, to the question of whether the govt weren't really prepared.

Another tradgedy of timing in France is that they had a factory in Brittany capable of producing up to 200 million masks a year. A 50 year old company, business was booming by 2009 after the SARS and H1N1 outbreaks.

Bought by American global-hyper-mega-corp Honeywell in 2010.

(translated)
"Seven years and four workforce reduction plans later, Honeywell closed the Plaintel site in September 2018, outsourced the production of protective masks to Tunisia, and dismissed 38 employees. Icing on the cake, in November 2018, most of the machines were sent to the scrap yard. Management then justified the closure “to streamline our global operations and better serve [its] customers”."

"The main factory for manufacturing hospital masks in France has been closed for profitability reasons, and no politician has raised a finger to oppose the closure of a strategic site for health security."

Edit: Sources:

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bretagne/cotes-d-armor/usine-masques-fermee-cotes-armor-2018-creve-coeur-ex-directeur-1808456.html

https://reporterre.net/En-2018-on-pouvait-fabriquer-200-millions-de-masques-par-an-en-France

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COViD-19 bonus for the brexiteurs who own JCB.

Well, merde.

The whole dyson thing is brexit marketing too. Top nob.

https://www.ft.com/content/d8e3eb44-3244-11e6-bda0-04585c31b153

There is no regulatory approval on the machines as a new design. I'd put money they will never be used.

He thought it was suspicious so tried to ram it with a train?! What does he mean by that?!

I'm with @Fox... Wtaf

Hmmm,
your FT link is paywalled.
C'n'P for tightwads?

Not a well man who is clearly not managing the overwhelming CV19 thing. I'm glad nobody got hurt.

I'm sure that in the fullness of time we'll see that COVID-19 had less incremental deaths than it appears. It feels a lot like deaths are being brought forward for most people, which is really terrible but less terrible than killing people who had half their lives ahead of them.

It said Dyson and JCB both donated heavily to Vote Leave. And I know JCB has donated to Boris personal coffers.

The same thing crossed my mind.

Hancock saying it's fantastic that NHS aren't overwhelmed at this point, to the question of whether the govt weren't really prepared.

I noticed that too. Typical politician's deflection, sadly.

Did anyone else spot that the BBC News Channel coverage cut away when he was asked why he had a test when others couldn't get one? I would have thought the answer to that would have been pretty pertinent, no?

Typical politician's deflection, sadly.

Sad is right, infuriates me.

Yeah, I don’t really want to be hearing the government celebrating how few Winter deaths we’ve had In 2021.

If hospitals are running at or over capacity, people who otherwise might have received treatment and lived may die. That's what the whole 'excess deaths' analysis tells us. Some of those people might have had half their lives ahead of them.

And we all know why the Bamfords,
owners of JCB are anti-EU/pro-Brexit.

He rushed the announcement,
and,
didn't dwell on who the 'Winners' were,
so my suspicions were raised,
but @dubtap corrected my interpretation.

I'm sure that will be the case but I just have a feeling that when we look back in a decade that there is a big spike and then a trough.

It's awful though and if I were sick with C19 and looking to lose my last year or two I'd feel rightly upset.

Traffic in London still higher than comparable cities:
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1245718281958424578

Another 8pm clap tonight. Was a good reception around here last week, I know there are a few NHS workers (and families) that live nearby.

A long time ago, on a trip to new York,
I took mespilus jr. to the New York Subway museum
housed in a dis-used subway station in Brooklyn.

One of the carriages they had on display, dating back to the 1920's, as far as I can remember,
had a notable feature of a couple of head-height wooden slats at both sides of each end.
Behind the slats was a UV-lamp. They had been installed to reduce the transmission of airborne diseases, in retrospect, presumably to reduce recurrences of 'Spanish' flu.

Does anyone, @Pathracer know if such UV-lamps are still used in modern day TfL Tube carriages?